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The modern center is a midget
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Moderators: Doctor MJ, Clyde Frazier, penbeast0, trex_8063, PaulieWal
Quotatious wrote:Wait, what is this thread for? Does is tell us something we didn't already know?
90sgoat wrote:Compares player size.
I think it is interesting for many to see the comparisons of players from different eras side by side. It's difficult to appreciate just how tall Kareem was until you see him dwarf Dwight. Mutombo also seems really tall, taller than his listed 7-1. NBA height are bs everyone knows that, so it is interesting to figure out the true heights,
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
DirtyDez wrote:When was Kareem at his physical peak? Right when he entered the league and was averaging 34/16 or the early Laker years where his stats were slightly less but most considered him the best player by far?
penbeast0 wrote:Looking at only the top 10 centers of all time, how would you guess they would stack up in stocking feet?
I have them as (in alphabetical order and counting Duncan as a C for this survey):
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Tim Duncan
Patrick Ewing
Moses Malone
George Mikan
Hakeem Olujawon
Shaquille O'Neal
David Robinson
Bill Russell
penbeast0 wrote:Looking at only the top 10 centers of all time, how would you guess they would stack up in stocking feet?
I have them as (in alphabetical order and counting Duncan as a C for this survey):
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Tim Duncan
Patrick Ewing
Moses Malone
George Mikan
Hakeem Olujawon
Shaquille O'Neal
David Robinson
Bill Russell
penbeast0 wrote:I will say I saw Russell and Hakeem together once and thought Russell was taller. Moses was more strong than tall, I would guess that if his height isn't the least, his standing reach would be.
Dr Olajuwon wrote:penbeast0 wrote:Looking at only the top 10 centers of all time, how would you guess they would stack up in stocking feet?
I have them as (in alphabetical order and counting Duncan as a C for this survey):
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Tim Duncan
Patrick Ewing
Moses Malone
George Mikan
Hakeem Olujawon
Shaquille O'Neal
David Robinson
Bill Russell
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Wilt Chamberlain
Shaquille O'Neal/David Robinson
Patrick Ewing/Tim Duncan
Hakeem Olajuwon
Bill Russell/Moses Malone
I don't know about Mikan.
I think Hakeem, Bill and Moses are really close.
90sgoat wrote:
I think this is close to right.
Robinson is a legit 7 footer, so is Ewing and Shaq, even if Shaq was listed as 7-1.
Hakeem was NOT 7 foot that is for sure.
Slightly taller than Dwight, I am guessing 6'10.5''
Dr Olajuwon wrote:Not sure about Russell. In this pic he is clearly smaller than KG:
trex_8063 wrote:Just so I’m clear on this…..
You've taken two or three of the taller centers of some past eras (Kareem---7'2", Wilt---7'1" (and huge), Walton---well documented to be >7ft [as your photos confirm], but wished to be listed 6'11" for reasons of psychology, Shaq---7'1" (and huge), Mutombo---7'2"), and then made the comparison to one of the shortest centers of the current era (Howard---listed 6'11", but fairly well-documented that he's actually significantly shorter: his official draft combine measurements were 6'9" without shoes, 6'10.25" in shoes; possibly the single shortest starting center in today's league???)......and this is the irrefutable proof that centers are shorter now? Rock solid!
So it wouldn’t help your position at all to mention any of the starting centers today listed at 7'0" (Valanciunas, Whiteside, B.Lopez, R.Lopez, Adams, Bogut off the top of my head), or the occasional >7fter (Gobert---7'1", Chandler---7'1", or Boban Marjanovic---7'3": future starter, imo). Or at the very least sample a center who's a more legitimate 6'11" (like DeAndre Jordan, Cousins, or Drummond, who are all 265+ lbs, too).
Also wouldn't want to make mention of some of the smaller centers (all at least part-time starters or consistent role players, if not stars) from those eras.....
Kareem and/or Walton's era
Moses Malone (6'10")
Dan Issel (6’9”)
Transition from Kareem/Walton’s era to Shaq/Deke’s era
LaSalle Thompson (6'10")
Mike Brown (6'9")
Michael Cage (6'9")
Oliver Miller (listed 6'9"; DraftExpress lists his height w/out shoes as 6'7.5")
Wilt’s era
Wayne Embry (6'8"---probably be listed 6'9" today)
Zelmo Beaty (6'9"---perhaps listed 6'10" today)
Clyde Lovellete (6’9”---perhaps listed 6’10” today)
yoyoboy wrote:Just off the top of my head, Tristan and Horford are definitely two starting centers shorter than D12.