If LeBron and Jordan were on the same era..

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If LeBron and Jordan were on the same era.. 

Post#1 » by CodeBreaker » Mon Aug 7, 2017 1:24 am

Who would be considered as the best player in the world?

LeBron has been consensus best player today for several consecutive years already. And we know MJ likewise had the same.
LeBron hasn't won much rings, didn't win 3peat and all that stuff, yet he is still consistently considered as the best player in the world because of his impact in a basketball game.

Now if Jordan and LeBron plays on the same era, who gets the label as the best player in the world?
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CodeBreaker wrote:Who would be considered as the best player in the world?

LeBron has been consensus best player today for several consecutive years already. And we know MJ likewise had the same.
LeBron hasn't won much rings, didn't win 3peat and all that stuff, yet he is still consistently considered as the best player in the world because of his impact in a basketball game.

Now if Jordan and LeBron plays on the same era, who gets the label as the best player in the world?


Probably a Magic-Bird thing, where the opinion is split. I think that a big reason people (in the public) think MJ > LeBron simply has to do with MJ being first and LeBron having to live up to the standard that MJ set. If they were competing at the same time at their absolute peaks, then maybe people would appreciate LeBron more for being his own player.
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Post#3 » by JordansBulls » Mon Aug 7, 2017 1:54 am

Jordan would be because statistically they are virtually the same, but Jordan's more of an assasin on the floor and that would be the main difference between the two. I mean Kobe and Lebron were considered equals when Lebron was statistically superior but in this case he would be the same as MJ stats wise.
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Post#4 » by rebirthoftheM » Mon Aug 7, 2017 2:04 am

Jordan. For starters, Michael would not have formed a super-team in Miami, which led to a ground-swell of hate/discrediting of Lebron's status. Michael also would not have had the bizarre "quitting" "disinterested" episodes that LBJ has displayed on a number of occasions in his career. The biggest reason for Lebron in 2011 being condemned IMO was because it looked like he was mentally shook and passive. Guys stopped respecting him. With MJ, you certainly wouldn't get that. His player reputation would be less stained.

Also, MJ was the better PS performer than Lebron and most importantly, a better scorer, and mainstream NBA fans/pundits really rate these things. Can you imagine what the reaction on ESPN/TNT would be if MJ in today's era averaged 40 PPG for an entire finals series? Folks would probably dedicate a church to him.

Kobe was widely considered to be the best player in 06, despite a lot of hate being thrown his way. It was more "I hate you but respect your game". MJ's rep though would be less stained than Kobe's, and his individual exploits would exceed Kobe's.The gambling and punching of teammates defects would inconsequential if MJ's teams were winning. And I'm sure MJ would be winning in this era.

Overall, I think MJ takes it here.
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Post#5 » by thekdog34 » Mon Aug 7, 2017 2:57 am

Well I think MJ was better so MJ, but it's reasonably close that there would be lots of disagreement
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Post#6 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Mon Aug 7, 2017 3:03 am

I didn't quite grow up during the MJ, but even so, I feel like most would consider him to be at least marginally greater. Hell, in '09 & '10 when he was having seasons that were clearly better than Kobe, you still had a large group of fans, media, analysts saying that Kobe was the greatest player alive.
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Post#7 » by RightToCensor » Mon Aug 7, 2017 3:09 am

Whoever is winning the most rings.
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Post#8 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Mon Aug 7, 2017 3:20 am

I still have LeBron in a group with Magic and Bird and Jordan in another class above all of them.

Some important changes have happened.
Traveling and palming have been on a long steady decline in a enforcement since the 1950s. In general each five year period gets away with travels and palms to a greater degree than each previous 5 year period. LeBron with the Heat may have been the all time champion traveler.

There has been a very slow general increase in the speed and size of players. The increase in speed and size was dramatic in the 1960s and early 1970s but has been slow since then and centers are starting to get smaller.

Physicality increased at some point after the 1960s. The legend off the rugged 1960s is false. 1980s Celtics and 76ers committed hard fouls at times that would be flagrant now. Bad Boy Pistons and Riley Knicks were playing just plain dirty Basketball and intentionally physically hurt people to hurt opponents performances through intimidation.

Pitino used 3s to create space for Ewing in the late 1980s and the usage of 3s for scoring and space creation has been rising meteoric ally ever since the late 1980s. The 3 ball has completely changed basketball.

The zone is legalized but it is not that big of a deal because illegal defense was not enforced in the 1980s and because players still need to leave the paint.

The legal Zone helps to clogg the paint but not to the same degree that all the great 3 point shooting has unclogged the paint. There is more space to drive straight down the middle of the court today than there was in the 1980s

The elimination of hand checking helps dribblers and shooters maintain their balance.

The restricted area created in 1997 has made it easier to drive to the rim.

The defensive touch foul has has penalized reaching in to a greater degree than reaching in was penalized in the past. In the 1980s and and 1990s reaching your arm in front of a driving offensive player would only be called a foul if you moved the offensive players body or moved the ball by hitting the offensive player someplace other than the hand.

The defensive touch foul has encouraged players to attempt to take charges instead of playing defense. If you are actually going to try to to move your feet and have a hand near the ball when the ball is shot then there will probably be some minor incidental body contact and if the incidental contact is called a foul then playing defense becomes a mistake and the defender should instead plant his feet and hope for an offensive foul call.

Then there is the James Harden game. long before James Harden Correy Magette and other played this game but James Harden and the refs took the Harden game to absurd levels during the 2015-16 season. The James Harden game is like a version of dodge ball. The defender must have his feet planted and his arms motionless when James Harden is within 3 feet of them or they must some how jump away from James Harden whenever James harden has the ball. If James Harden (or to a lessor degree other players) are able to jump into a defensive player that has moving feet or moving arms a foul shall be called on the defensive player. The defensive player must be completely motionless for a full second before James Harden arrives or the foul will be called on the defensive player. If the defensive player is able to jump away from James Harden and then there will be no foul called. If the defensive player attempts to flee from James Harden but James Harden is still able to touch the defensive player then the foul shall be called on the defensive player. If James Harden jumps on top of a motionless defensive player the foul shall be called on the defensive player. Any play that would have been called an offensive foul in the 1960s or a no call in the 1980s shall be called a defensive foul if James Harden or any other modern player creates the contact and the defensive player moves slightly even if it is just a flinch. The offensive foul by Harden shall be called a defensive foul on the defender even if Harden is forced to dribble away from the basket in order to jump into the retreating defender. OK; I may have exaggerated a little bit; but what couldvJordan do if he could draw fouls by diving into retreating defenders?

The current NBA would be an NBA that Jordan dominate more thoroughly than he dominated his own time. The Zone works against Jordan but everything else works in Jordan''s favor.

LeBron with hand checking and a more crowded paint and more travellling calls would not be as good playing in Jordan's time. LeBron will probabably get in a fight with Laimbeer and kick the %^#%^ out of Laimbeer? That might be one way to end the Bad boy era.

Jordan is simply the better player. Jordan slips through defenders better than LeBron attacks the gaps and powers through whoever tries to close the gaps. You don't really want either player shooting 3s unless they are hot. Jordan can reliably hit pull up jumpers. There are more days when LeBron doesn't shoot mid range well than there are days when Jordan does not shoot mid range well.

LeBron is ball dominant which can be good or bad depending on whether the point guard that LeBron is taking the ball from is a better or worse point guard then LeBron. I consider LeBon an average point guard but a good passer for a forward.

If all things were equal Jordan would be the better finisher at the rim but all things are not equal and LeBron plays in an era in which it is easier to finish at the rim because he can travel, gets more favorable foul calls and therefore faces less intense defense and he plays with a more spaced out floor and faces less help defense than Jordan faced.
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Post#9 » by PCProductions » Mon Aug 7, 2017 3:29 am

Jordan's game lends itself more to people's perception of greatness than Lebron. Taking the clutch shot with a defender draped all over him, scoring at a high volume, better at one-on-one, etc. I think answering this question brings to mind what OP meant by "considered greater" rather than who would be better.

I think Lebron's game is a little more tailored for this era, although I wonder if Jordan would adapt to this three-heavy game that we're seeing. He never really liked shooting them even when it started to become a pretty integral part of the game and never really seemed to adjust his game away from super-high volume scoring, so I question all these things with a degree of doubt in his portability. Jordan is such an interesting player to evaluate because all of his success was with Phil and Scottie and great offensive rebounding. Lebron's had rings with different teams/coaches/supporting players throughout a pretty fundamental change in the way the game was played.
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Post#10 » by oldschooled » Mon Aug 7, 2017 3:32 am

Jordan's alpha mentality would never let himself go 2nd after Lebron. Jordan would make himself #1 by hook or by crook.
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Post#11 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Aug 7, 2017 4:16 am

It would be interesting.

I assume Jordan would have done what KD did and have found a super super team. I get a feeling he could have sold it better to the public, but I think really it's all about how you perceive their respective super teams.
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Post#12 » by SlowPaced » Mon Aug 7, 2017 4:30 am

Depends on what their teams are.

If they're both on contenders of roughly the same level, whoever wins more probably gets considered the better player.
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Post#13 » by Roddy B for 3 » Mon Aug 7, 2017 4:42 am

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CodeBreaker wrote:Who would be considered as the best player in the world?

LeBron has been consensus best player today for several consecutive years already. And we know MJ likewise had the same.
LeBron hasn't won much rings, didn't win 3peat and all that stuff, yet he is still consistently considered as the best player in the world because of his impact in a basketball game.

Now if Jordan and LeBron plays on the same era, who gets the label as the best player in the world?


Probably a Magic-Bird thing, where the opinion is split. I think that a big reason people (in the public) think MJ > LeBron simply has to do with MJ being first and LeBron having to live up to the standard that MJ set. If they were competing at the same time at their absolute peaks, then maybe people would appreciate LeBron more for being his own player.


This is all hypothetical. I think MJ would have the head to head wins record and would be seen as the better winner.
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Post#14 » by Roddy B for 3 » Mon Aug 7, 2017 4:58 am

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:I still have LeBron in a group with Magic and Bird and Jordan in another class above all of them.

Some important changes have happened.
Traveling and palming have been on a long steady decline in a enforcement since the 1950s. In general each five year period gets away with travels and palms to a greater degree than each previous 5 year period. LeBron with the Heat may have been the all time champion traveler.

There has been a very slow general increase in the speed and size of players. The increase in speed and size was dramatic in the 1960s and early 1970s but has been slow since then and centers are starting to get smaller.

Physicality increased at some point after the 1960s. The legend off the rugged 1960s is false. 1980s Celtics and 76ers committed hard fouls at times that would be flagrant now. Bad Boy Pistons and Riley Knicks were playing just plain dirty Basketball and intentionally physically hurt people to hurt opponents performances through intimidation.

Pitino used 3s to create space for Ewing in the late 1980s and the usage of 3s for scoring and space creation has been rising meteoric ally ever since the late 1980s. The 3 ball has completely changed basketball.

The zone is legalized but it is not that big of a deal because illegal defense was not enforced in the 1980s and because players still need to leave the paint.

The legal Zone helps to clogg the paint but not to the same degree that all the great 3 point shooting has unclogged the paint. There is more space to drive straight down the middle of the court today than there was in the 1980s

The elimination of hand checking helps dribblers and shooters maintain their balance.

The restricted area created in 1997 has made it easier to drive to the rim.

The defensive touch foul has has penalized reaching in to a greater degree than reaching in was penalized in the past. In the 1980s and and 1990s reaching your arm in front of a driving offensive player would only be called a foul if you moved the offensive players body or moved the ball by hitting the offensive player someplace other than the hand.

The defensive touch foul has encouraged players to attempt to take charges instead of playing defense. If you are actually going to try to to move your feet and have a hand near the ball when the ball is shot then there will probably be some minor incidental body contact and if the incidental contact is called a foul then playing defense becomes a mistake and the defender should instead plant his feet and hope for an offensive foul call.

Then there is the James Harden game. long before James Harden Correy Magette and other played this game but James Harden and the refs took the Harden game to absurd levels during the 2015-16 season. The James Harden game is like a version of dodge ball. The defender must have his feet planted and his arms motionless when James Harden is within 3 feet of them or they must some how jump away from James Harden whenever James harden has the ball. If James Harden (or to a lessor degree other players) are able to jump into a defensive player that has moving feet or moving arms a foul shall be called on the defensive player. The defensive player must be completely motionless for a full second before James Harden arrives or the foul will be called on the defensive player. If the defensive player is able to jump away from James Harden and then there will be no foul called. If the defensive player attempts to flee from James Harden but James Harden is still able to touch the defensive player then the foul shall be called on the defensive player. If James Harden jumps on top of a motionless defensive player the foul shall be called on the defensive player. Any play that would have been called an offensive foul in the 1960s or a no call in the 1980s shall be called a defensive foul if James Harden or any other modern player creates the contact and the defensive player moves slightly even if it is just a flinch. The offensive foul by Harden shall be called a defensive foul on the defender even if Harden is forced to dribble away from the basket in order to jump into the retreating defender. OK; I may have exaggerated a little bit; but what couldvJordan do if he could draw fouls by diving into retreating defenders?

The current NBA would be an NBA that Jordan dominate more thoroughly than he dominated his own time. The Zone works against Jordan but everything else works in Jordan''s favor.

LeBron with hand checking and a more crowded paint and more travellling calls would not be as good playing in Jordan's time. LeBron will probabably get in a fight with Laimbeer and kick the %^#%^ out of Laimbeer? That might be one way to end the Bad boy era.

Jordan is simply the better player. Jordan slips through defenders better than LeBron attacks the gaps and power through whoever tries to close the gaps. You don't really want either player shooting 3s unless they are hot. Jordan can reliably hit pull up jumpers. There are more days when LeBron doesn't shoot mid range well than there are days when Jordan does not shoot mid range well.

LeBron is ball dominant which can be good or bad depending on whether the point guard that LeBron is taking the ball from is a better or worse point guard then LeBron. I consider LeBon an average point guard but a good passer for a forward.

If all things were equal Jordan would be the better finisher at the rim but all things are not equal and LeBron plays in an era in which it is easier to finish at the rim because he can travel, gets more favorable foul calls and therefore faces less intense defense and he plays with a more spaced out floor and faces less help defense than Jordan faced.



I truly believe LeBron wouldn't have had the public mental problems (like v.s. Boston 2010, or Dallas 2011) if he had to go through teams that beat on him. I feel like he would have hit them back (offensivley) and maybe have been even better of a player for it.

Imagine if LeBron was angry at a Bird cheap shot and decided he was going to spend the rest of the game blowing by Bird and taking his anger out on the rim as Parish, McHale and Walton had to be gone through to accomish this feat. I think Parish, McHale and Walton would take more damage and over a 7gmae series, that adds up.

LeBrons game is soooo physical people get out of his way. LeBron, at times, makes MJ look like a ballerina. In era that emphasised size and power, LeBron would have been GOAT, unless MJ played in that era.

*Edit. Your second point says you think Jordan is the better rim finisher even tho LeBron is in an era that gives players better opportunity's for rim finishes. I agree, but think it should be noted LeBron is an all timer at scoring under the basket, in any era. I could see LeBron having shooting splits of 45/32/82 (with a higher 3pt volume than MJ) for his career, through 14 years, if it ran parellell with MJ's.
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Post#15 » by CodeBreaker » Mon Aug 7, 2017 4:59 am

dhsilv2 wrote:It would be interesting.

I assume Jordan would have done what KD did and have found a super super team. I get a feeling he could have sold it better to the public, but I think really it's all about how you perceive their respective super teams.

Lol Jordan's alpha mentality won't even think of about switching teams imo. Let alone that beta mentality of KD's decision to join the team that beat him.
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Post#16 » by RCM88x » Mon Aug 7, 2017 5:19 am

Probably Jordan because his game is more aesthetically pleasing to the average fan.
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Post#17 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Mon Aug 7, 2017 5:45 am

PCProductions wrote:I wonder if Jordan would adapt to this three-heavy game that we're seeing. He never really liked shooting them even when it started to become a pretty integral part of the game and never really seemed to adjust his game away from super-high volume scoring.


Jordan and LeBron are not pure shooters. Ray Allen will kick their butts in a 3 point shooting contest. The strength of Jordan's and LeBron's game is getting all the way to the rim and then using the threat of going all the way to the rim to create pull up mid range jumpers. LeBron and Jordan are both streaky from deep. They can shoot a team into or out of a game from deep. It is much better to have them do what they can do reliably.

Tony Allen still plays even though he can't hit wide open mid range shots.

Jordan and LeBron benefit from the 3 point line even though they are not good 3 point shooters. Being surrounded by 3 point shooters gets the help defenders away from the paint. both Jordan and LeBron would be tremendously benefitted by getting the help defenders away from the paint. The difference is that LeBron played with better shooters.

Jordan had Hodges, Paxson, Kerr and BJ Armstrong but they were all playing point guard (not really because Pippen was the point forward). I would compare them to Patric Bevery except none of them played good defense. Patty Mills and Jason Terry except those guys had speed. I got it, it's Derick Fisher and JJ Redick.

Then you had Harper cutting into Kerr's time and Harper was not a very good 3 point shooter.

Too bad the Bulls had Cartwrght and Longley instead of Sabonis. Wennington could hit mid range at center but he barely played. Kukic could hit 3s while he backed up Rodman and Pippen.

Pippen could hit mid range but he and Jordan could only hit 3s during the short 3 point line years. Scott williams and Horrace Grant could hit mid range. Jud Beuchler could hit 3s but he was barely good enough to play.

Then there is Rodman who refused to shoot at all.

That is pretty poor floor spacing that Jordan had to work with. He had to beat his man and help defenders. LeBron did not face as much help defense and that is why I don't think you can just compare their FG percentage.

When the Rockets won championships while Jordan played baseball the Rockets surrounded Hakeem with more 3 point shooting. Vernon Maxwell was a fine athlete but he was bad at finishing shots at the rim and had a bad mid range game. Maxwell's 3 was OK but not great but the Rockets had Vernon Maxwell firing up 3s to create space for Hakeem. Now days what Vernon Maxwell was doing seems normal but partbof the reason he was called Mad Max was because fans were not used to mediocre 3 point shooter being volume 3 point shooters.

Vernon Maxwell could have helped Jordan if you ignore the psychologically unstable aspect of Vernon Maxwell.

I am sure the Bulls would have given Jordan more 3 pointbshooters if they could have found them but there were not a whole lot of 3 point shooters to choose from and after the Rockets championships teams wanted to keep their 3 point shooters.
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Post#18 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Mon Aug 7, 2017 6:17 am

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SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:I still have LeBron in a group with Magic and Bird and Jordan in another class above all of them.

Some important changes have happened.
Traveling and palming have been on a long steady decline in a enforcement since the 1950s. In general each five year period gets away with travels and palms to a greater degree than each previous 5 year period. LeBron with the Heat may have been the all time champion traveler.

There has been a very slow general increase in the speed and size of players. The increase in speed and size was dramatic in the 1960s and early 1970s but has been slow since then and centers are starting to get smaller.

Physicality increased at some point after the 1960s. The legend off the rugged 1960s is false. 1980s Celtics and 76ers committed hard fouls at times that would be flagrant now. Bad Boy Pistons and Riley Knicks were playing just plain dirty Basketball and intentionally physically hurt people to hurt opponents performances through intimidation.

Pitino used 3s to create space for Ewing in the late 1980s and the usage of 3s for scoring and space creation has been rising meteoric ally ever since the late 1980s. The 3 ball has completely changed basketball.

The zone is legalized but it is not that big of a deal because illegal defense was not enforced in the 1980s and because players still need to leave the paint.

The legal Zone helps to clogg the paint but not to the same degree that all the great 3 point shooting has unclogged the paint. There is more space to drive straight down the middle of the court today than there was in the 1980s

The elimination of hand checking helps dribblers and shooters maintain their balance.

The restricted area created in 1997 has made it easier to drive to the rim.

The defensive touch foul has has penalized reaching in to a greater degree than reaching in was penalized in the past. In the 1980s and and 1990s reaching your arm in front of a driving offensive player would only be called a foul if you moved the offensive players body or moved the ball by hitting the offensive player someplace other than the hand.

The defensive touch foul has encouraged players to attempt to take charges instead of playing defense. If you are actually going to try to to move your feet and have a hand near the ball when the ball is shot then there will probably be some minor incidental body contact and if the incidental contact is called a foul then playing defense becomes a mistake and the defender should instead plant his feet and hope for an offensive foul call.

Then there is the James Harden game. long before James Harden Correy Magette and other played this game but James Harden and the refs took the Harden game to absurd levels during the 2015-16 season. The James Harden game is like a version of dodge ball. The defender must have his feet planted and his arms motionless when James Harden is within 3 feet of them or they must some how jump away from James Harden whenever James harden has the ball. If James Harden (or to a lessor degree other players) are able to jump into a defensive player that has moving feet or moving arms a foul shall be called on the defensive player. The defensive player must be completely motionless for a full second before James Harden arrives or the foul will be called on the defensive player. If the defensive player is able to jump away from James Harden and then there will be no foul called. If the defensive player attempts to flee from James Harden but James Harden is still able to touch the defensive player then the foul shall be called on the defensive player. If James Harden jumps on top of a motionless defensive player the foul shall be called on the defensive player. Any play that would have been called an offensive foul in the 1960s or a no call in the 1980s shall be called a defensive foul if James Harden or any other modern player creates the contact and the defensive player moves slightly even if it is just a flinch. The offensive foul by Harden shall be called a defensive foul on the defender even if Harden is forced to dribble away from the basket in order to jump into the retreating defender. OK; I may have exaggerated a little bit; but what couldvJordan do if he could draw fouls by diving into retreating defenders?

The current NBA would be an NBA that Jordan dominate more thoroughly than he dominated his own time. The Zone works against Jordan but everything else works in Jordan''s favor.

LeBron with hand checking and a more crowded paint and more travellling calls would not be as good playing in Jordan's time. LeBron will probabably get in a fight with Laimbeer and kick the %^#%^ out of Laimbeer? That might be one way to end the Bad boy era.

Jordan is simply the better player. Jordan slips through defenders better than LeBron attacks the gaps and power through whoever tries to close the gaps. You don't really want either player shooting 3s unless they are hot. Jordan can reliably hit pull up jumpers. There are more days when LeBron doesn't shoot mid range well than there are days when Jordan does not shoot mid range well.

LeBron is ball dominant which can be good or bad depending on whether the point guard that LeBron is taking the ball from is a better or worse point guard then LeBron. I consider LeBon an average point guard but a good passer for a forward.

If all things were equal Jordan would be the better finisher at the rim but all things are not equal and LeBron plays in an era in which it is easier to finish at the rim because he can travel, gets more favorable foul calls and therefore faces less intense defense and he plays with a more spaced out floor and faces less help defense than Jordan faced.



I truly believe LeBron wouldn't have had the public mental problems (like v.s. Boston 2010, or Dallas 2011) if he had to go through teams that beat on him. I feel like he would have hit them back (offensivley) and maybe have been even better of a player for it.

Imagine if LeBron was angry at a Bird cheap shot and decided he was going to spend the rest of the game blowing by Bird and taking his anger out on the rim as Parish, McHale and Walton had to be gone through to accomish this feat. I think Parish, McHale and Walton would take more damage and over a 7gmae series, that adds up.

LeBrons game is soooo physical people get out of his way. LeBron, at times, makes MJ look like a ballerina. In era that emphasised size and power, LeBron would have been GOAT, unless MJ played in that era.

*Edit. Your second point says you think Jordan is the better rim finisher even tho LeBron is in an era that gives players better opportunity's for rim finishes. I agree, but think it should be noted LeBron is an all timer at scoring under the basket, in any era. I could see LeBron having shooting splits of 45/32/82 (with a higher 3pt volume than MJ) for his career, through 14 years, if it ran parellell with MJ's.


Insignificant detail McHale defended Dominique and McHale would defend LeBron. McHale has slow feet but crazy long arms. McHale will give LeBron the 3 with a hand waving uselessly a foot away from LeBron's face. LeBron can't reliably hitb3s against matador defense. So LeBron will drive. McHale will stay with LeBron for a few steps and then follow LeBron to the rim. LeBron can not take Pull up mid range shots because McHale may block them from behind.

Bird is good at boxing out. He can handle either of Love or TT on the boards. I would put Bird on Love so that Parish can stay near the rim. So LeBron is driving and being followed by McHale and has Parish coming over. LeBron is playing in a touch foul era. Parish must block LeBron more cleanly than Parish had to block Jordan. No Problem. Parish can deal with LeBron's moves and can deal with LeBrons power and Parish can get clean blocks. Young Parish had better leaping ability but his blocks were not so clean. Older 1986 Parish has another in Walton backing him up. LeBrons best option is to pass to TT. How are TT's hands? TT has an open shot but will he finish it? Will Aigne leave JR. Smith or Shumpert open to try to come down and bother TT?

When the pass goes to TT parish can come back to TT but Parish will be late. if TT does not want to shoot he can pass back to LeBron but by that time McHale will have caught up to the play and McHale is an elite shot blocker. TT needs to score a lot of points for the Cavs to beat the 1986 celtics and that is not a role that TT is used to filling.

You say LeBron is so physical that people get out of his way. Parish and Walton can handle LeBron's physicality but can they handle the refs calling touch fouls? If you are going to foul LeBron or Karl Malone at the rim you have to foul them very hard to stop the and one because of their power.

If you are a little small forward you may not be strong enough to stop LeBron from completing his ****. Iguodalla screwed LeBron up by messing with LeBron's dribble. Brandon Rush beat LeBron defensively once in the 2016 Finals by pulling the chair when LeBron was backing in.

People don't just stay out of LeBron's way becausevhevis so physical. They also stay out of LeBron's way because they are afraid of the referees. Players will not get the benefit of the doubt from the refs when they make contact with LeBron. LeBron can clear out with a stiff arm (Jordan also used stiff arms) but people can't touch LeBron. People were allowed to touch Jordan more than they are allowed to touch LeBron.
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Re: If LeBron and Jordan were on the same era.. 

Post#19 » by dhsilv2 » Mon Aug 7, 2017 7:03 am

CodeBreaker wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:It would be interesting.

I assume Jordan would have done what KD did and have found a super super team. I get a feeling he could have sold it better to the public, but I think really it's all about how you perceive their respective super teams.

Lol Jordan's alpha mentality won't even think of about switching teams imo. Let alone that beta mentality of KD's decision to join the team that beat him.


Jordan was obsessed with winning. No way he wouldnt change teams, that is 100% him.
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Re: If LeBron and Jordan were on the same era.. 

Post#20 » by DidUSaySometing » Mon Aug 7, 2017 7:51 am

CodeBreaker wrote:Who would be considered as the best player in the world?

LeBron has been consensus best player today for several consecutive years already. And we know MJ likewise had the same.
LeBron hasn't won much rings, didn't win 3peat and all that stuff, yet he is still consistently considered as the best player in the world because of his impact in a basketball game.

Now if Jordan and LeBron plays on the same era, who gets the label as the best player in the world?


definitely lebron. jordan is an A+ scorer, B- passer, B+ defender, and C rebounder. lebron makes a bigger impact

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