Better Spur: LaMarcus Aldridge or Larry Kenon
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Better Spur: LaMarcus Aldridge or Larry Kenon
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Better Spur: LaMarcus Aldridge or Larry Kenon
Before everyone rips me for asking a seemingly easy question, here are some facts I'd like to point out:
-LMA was an all star for the Spurs in his first year with the team
-LMA also put up insane numbers against the Thunder at the same year's playoffs
-Larry Kenon made 5 all star teams but all of which were during the 70s (the worst time for basketball) and his first 3 all star teams were with the ABA (NBA > ABA talent-wise)
You could say that in this case 5 > 1 is not necessarily the case when 5 of Kenon's all star years were stained with the quality of the basketball league and the decade whereas LMA made an all star team in a time where there's an influx of talented players and in a stacked Western conference
-LMA was an all star for the Spurs in his first year with the team
-LMA also put up insane numbers against the Thunder at the same year's playoffs
-Larry Kenon made 5 all star teams but all of which were during the 70s (the worst time for basketball) and his first 3 all star teams were with the ABA (NBA > ABA talent-wise)
You could say that in this case 5 > 1 is not necessarily the case when 5 of Kenon's all star years were stained with the quality of the basketball league and the decade whereas LMA made an all star team in a time where there's an influx of talented players and in a stacked Western conference
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smartyz456 wrote:-Larry Kenon made 5 all star teams but all of which were during the 70s (the worst time for basketball) and his first 3 all star teams were with the ABA (NBA > ABA talent-wise)
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It is not so clear that Aldridge is better than Kenon. I suspect Kenon would be better at creating his own shot. Aldridge has been inconsistent. Kenon is really before my time but I suspect he also was inconsistent. Aldridge plays in a great system. Kenon played in a confused system.
How was Kennon's defense? Those 1970s Spurs had talent but did they dislike playing defense?
How was Kennon's defense? Those 1970s Spurs had talent but did they dislike playing defense?
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SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:It is not so clear that Aldridge is better than Kenon. I suspect Kenon would be better at creating his own shot. Aldridge has been inconsistent. Kenon is really before my time but I suspect he also was inconsistent. Aldridge plays in a great system. Kenon played in a confused system.
How was Kennon's defense? Those 1970s Spurs had talent but did they dislike playing defense?
Doug Moe's system was confused?
Spurs defense - Gale, Paultz, and Dietrick were good defenders. Special K and The Iceman pretty went for the steal and the block respectively though
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wojoaderge wrote:SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:It is not so clear that Aldridge is better than Kenon. I suspect Kenon would be better at creating his own shot. Aldridge has been inconsistent. Kenon is really before my time but I suspect he also was inconsistent. Aldridge plays in a great system. Kenon played in a confused system.
How was Kennon's defense? Those 1970s Spurs had talent but did they dislike playing defense?
Doug Moe's system was confused?
Spurs defense - Gale, Paultz, and Dietrick were good defenders. Special K and The Iceman pretty went for the steal and the block respectively though
My vague image of those Spurs is probably more 1980 than 1977. They won games but I didn't feel like they were scrapers. I liked Johnny Moore but I think that is after Kenon's time.
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Larry was at least fun to watch. Blazers Aldridge vs Spurs Kenon is more interesting debate and I always knew that Lamarcus has been overrated.
Give me Kenon over Spurs LA without any doubts.
Give me Kenon over Spurs LA without any doubts.
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70sFan wrote:Larry was at least fun to watch. Blazers Aldridge vs Spurs Kenon is more interesting debate and I always knew that Lamarcus has been overrated.
Give me Kenon over Spurs LA without any doubts.
Aldridge is softer than the pillow on my bed, but I'd still take Aldridge over Kenon. I just don't like Special K's "Shoot, shoot, and shoot some more" game, and it doesn't entertain me at all. I'd rather have Lamarcus' rebounding and rim protection.
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[quote="PockyCandy"I just don't like Special K's "Shoot, shoot, and shoot some more" game, and it doesn't entertain me at all. I'd rather have Lamarcus' rebounding and rim protection.[/quote]
Kenon was a just as good a rebounder if not better. Besides, he played with much more style . . .
Kenon was a just as good a rebounder if not better. Besides, he played with much more style . . .
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wojoaderge wrote:[quote="PockyCandy"I just don't like Special K's "Shoot, shoot, and shoot some more" game, and it doesn't entertain me at all. I'd rather have Lamarcus' rebounding and rim protection.
Kenon was a just as good a rebounder if not better. Besides, he played with much more style . . .[/quote]
Fine, I'd rather have Lamarcus' rim protection. I'm trying to find any reason not to pick Kenon.
He's in my top 5 least favorite players to watch ever, along with Pero Antic, George McGinnis, Danny Ainge, and Adrian Dantley.
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PockyCandy wrote:wojoaderge wrote:[quote="PockyCandy"I just don't like Special K's "Shoot, shoot, and shoot some more" game, and it doesn't entertain me at all. I'd rather have Lamarcus' rebounding and rim protection.
Kenon was a just as good a rebounder if not better. Besides, he played with much more style . . .
Fine, I'd rather have Lamarcus' rim protection. I'm trying to find any reason not to pick Kenon.
He's in my top 5 least favorite players to watch ever, along with Pero Antic, George McGinnis, Danny Ainge, and Adrian Dantley.[/quote]
I know we have much different preferences
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PockyCandy wrote:Fine, I'd rather have Lamarcus' rim protection. I'm trying to find any reason not to pick Kenon.
He's in my top 5 least favorite players to watch ever, along with Pero Antic, George McGinnis, Danny Ainge, and Adrian Dantley.
Oh boy. We can't be friends anymore . . .
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smartyz456 wrote:Before everyone rips me for asking a seemingly easy question, here are some facts I'd like to point out:
-LMA was an all star for the Spurs in his first year with the team
-LMA also put up insane numbers against the Thunder at the same year's playoffs
Aldridge put up big numbers in two games of a six-game series. The first two games. Let's tell it like it actually happened, and not leave out that fact. What did he do for the other two-thirds of the series? I'm looking at my notes from that year, and "insane" wouldn't be the appropriate adjective.
The beautiful ball movement that has sent basketballphiles' heads spinning was gone, replaced by isolation grinds which the Thunder snuffed out and manhandled. The scoring balance was absent as the Spurs turned again and again to LaMarcus Aldridge, who had two great games and then returned to just being a mid-range shooting power forward, high in volume, low in efficiency.
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wojoaderge wrote:SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:It is not so clear that Aldridge is better than Kenon. I suspect Kenon would be better at creating his own shot. Aldridge has been inconsistent. Kenon is really before my time but I suspect he also was inconsistent. Aldridge plays in a great system. Kenon played in a confused system.
How was Kennon's defense? Those 1970s Spurs had talent but did they dislike playing defense?
Doug Moe's system was confused?
Spurs defense - Gale, Paultz, and Dietrick were good defenders. Special K and The Iceman pretty went for the steal and the block respectively though
Actually Moe's system was probably closer to the modern system (absent spamming of 3's) than almost anyone else in the league. He used a motion offense based on 4 or 5 men moving away from the basket rather than the more traditional drive and dish/post up offense more commonly used then . . . just without the 3, he emphasized quick shots and creating transistion opportunities (like Red Auerbach in the 50s/60s only with more success offensively . . . and much much less defensively).
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Spurs have a good defensive record one year under Moe, 1978-79. The other years the Spurs have mediocre or bad defensive stats but are good on offense.