Best NBA Player Year By Year Since 2000.

[eminence]

Anywho, my personal choices.

2000: Shaq
2001: Shaq
2002: Duncan
2003: Duncan
2004: KG
2005: Manu
2006: Wade
2007: Duncan
2008: KG
2009: LeBron
2010: LeBron
2011: Dirk
2012: LeBron
2013: LeBron
2014: LeBron
2015: Curry
2016: LeBron
2017: Curry
2018: Harden

[Lost92Bricks]

Kobe was the best player in 2006 in most people's opinion. Sure, the media didn't want to give him MVP because of Colorado, but he was universally thought of as the "Best Player". So much so that he was All-NBA 1st team, with Wade as 2nd team. Kobe was also 1st team All-D. Had two 40 ppg months(only Wilt has done the same in their whole career), and had people watching mid-season NBA games over the NFL playoffs. LA did lose to the #2 seed in 7-games, but you would be hard pressed to find a player who was better than Kobe in 2006. Wade had a fantastic Finals, but wasn't better than Kobe who literally outscored those same Mavs through 3 quarters...by himself.

As for 2009. Kobe was still All-NBA 1s team/All-D 1st team, and was the beat player in the NBA. Lebron may be the most talented player ever, but he didn't learn how to utilize those skills until the 2011 experience where he was forced to. LBJ more than anyone should have went to college. Just a couple years would have done wonders for him, especially off the ball. Would have loved to see 2012-2014 Lebron back in the 09-011 years.

Kobe was not better than Wade in 2009. Wade in 2009 was just as if not more insane than Kobe was in 2006.

[dhsilv2]

No. Notice thon maker over lebron. The stat isn’t about minutes played

Using the 4 year model, which includes basically an entire season, Draymond crushes everyone.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSzp3G5rwP9xgCgluVGmR3Qj4-BMoGSYiuTKM6o_pzES6s95oQE1nQvB2CXed-4fRc_MMGgpULtDaJ_/pubhtml?gid=1009708809&single=true

Wouldn't you expect Draymond to be high on a 4 year metric of impact?

Higher than Curry, Lbj, KD, Kawhi, by huge margins. Now you are referring to my expectations instead of the ‘measurements’. You are arguing this directly shows Draymond to be worth more than Curry and AD combined, correct?

Of course not. I did not ever state that impact should be used to show worth or value.

A poster claimed that KD was the most impactful player and that is clearly false. I stated that we have stats that shows us that KD's impact is lesser than his box metrics. I would however never use impact as the singular measure of value, worth, or ranking a player. Nor would I use PPG to define the best scorer in and of itself.

[Cavsfansince84]

Ofcourse people hate Durant right now and would never allow him to be viewed as the best player, but he was the most impactful player no matter how you slice it.

This is just completely false. You realize we have actual metrics to measure impact? They firmly paint the picture that KD's stats are far better than his actual impact. That isn't to say we should judge a player purely on impact metrics, but it's unquestionably he wasn't near the top in impact last year.

We don’t have stats which measure impact. We have stats which measure things related to impact... obviously can’t measure impact

Even by simple stats and advanced stats he has virtually no case whatsoever for the title of best player in 2018. The only possible basis for giving him that title is the face he won fmvp. Honestly if I were listing the 10 best players of this last season I don't think he's in the top 3. He's really only top 5 based on his previous seasons.

[euroleague]

Wouldn't you expect Draymond to be high on a 4 year metric of impact?

Higher than Curry, Lbj, KD, Kawhi, by huge margins. Now you are referring to my expectations instead of the ‘measurements’. You are arguing this directly shows Draymond to be worth more than Curry and AD combined, correct?

Of course not. I did not ever state that impact should be used to show worth or value.

A poster claimed that KD was the most impactful player and that is clearly false. I stated that we have stats that shows us that KD's impact is lesser than his box metrics. I would however never use impact as the singular measure of value, worth, or ranking a player. Nor would I use PPG to define the best scorer in and of itself.

You are obviously still completely out of it. You think Draymond is as ‘impactful’ as LBJ and AD combined?

[dhsilv2]

Higher than Curry, Lbj, KD, Kawhi, by huge margins. Now you are referring to my expectations instead of the ‘measurements’. You are arguing this directly shows Draymond to be worth more than Curry and AD combined, correct?

Of course not. I did not ever state that impact should be used to show worth or value.

A poster claimed that KD was the most impactful player and that is clearly false. I stated that we have stats that shows us that KD's impact is lesser than his box metrics. I would however never use impact as the singular measure of value, worth, or ranking a player. Nor would I use PPG to define the best scorer in and of itself.

You are obviously still completely out of it. You think Draymond is as ‘impactful’ as LBJ and AD combined?

I want to go back to what I first said.

"They firmly paint the picture that KD's stats are far better than his actual impact"

I want to focus on the use of "Paint the picture". That is not a mathmatical or measurable statement. I would hope you understand the expression, but it more goes to the idea that the metrics due to how many years of them we have and how consistent they are, is over and over again telling us that we should be skeptical of box score stats when evaluating KD.

To the silly question that you asked.

I don't believe we can draw much conclusion from playoff RAPM, even 4 years is too small a sample due to the nature of competition in the playoffs. Trying to add AD + Lebron's stats is even worse given there is no data of even modest value on AD given the sample size before we deal with the problems inherent in regression models with how the playoffs are structured.

[euroleague]

Of course not. I did not ever state that impact should be used to show worth or value.

A poster claimed that KD was the most impactful player and that is clearly false. I stated that we have stats that shows us that KD's impact is lesser than his box metrics. I would however never use impact as the singular measure of value, worth, or ranking a player. Nor would I use PPG to define the best scorer in and of itself.

You are obviously still completely out of it. You think Draymond is as ‘impactful’ as LBJ and AD combined?

I want to go back to what I first said.

"They firmly paint the picture that KD's stats are far better than his actual impact"

I want to focus on the use of "Paint the picture". That is not a mathmatical or measurable statement. I would hope you understand the expression, but it more goes to the idea that the metrics due to how many years of them we have and how consistent they are, is over and over again telling us that we should be skeptical of box score stats when evaluating KD.

To the silly question that you asked.

I don't believe we can draw much conclusion from playoff RAPM, even 4 years is too small a sample due to the nature of competition in the playoffs. Trying to add AD + Lebron's stats is even worse given there is no data of even modest value on AD given the sample size before we deal with the problems inherent in regression models with how the playoffs are structured.

You said, we can literally ‘measure impact’. I said you can measure stats related to impact. You said, tell me why we can’t measure it directly? We have stats that measure it.

Read the conversation

[dhsilv2]

You are obviously still completely out of it. You think Draymond is as ‘impactful’ as LBJ and AD combined?

I want to go back to what I first said.

"They firmly paint the picture that KD's stats are far better than his actual impact"

I want to focus on the use of "Paint the picture". That is not a mathmatical or measurable statement. I would hope you understand the expression, but it more goes to the idea that the metrics due to how many years of them we have and how consistent they are, is over and over again telling us that we should be skeptical of box score stats when evaluating KD.

To the silly question that you asked.

I don't believe we can draw much conclusion from playoff RAPM, even 4 years is too small a sample due to the nature of competition in the playoffs. Trying to add AD + Lebron's stats is even worse given there is no data of even modest value on AD given the sample size before we deal with the problems inherent in regression models with how the playoffs are structured.

You said, we can literally ‘measure impact’. I said you can measure stats related to impact. You said, tell me why we can’t measure it directly? We have stats that measure it.

Read the conversation

You can measure it directly. I would not evaluate a player based on impact alone. However you're trying to use bad data sets to measure it...

A direct measure is not an exact measure however.

Why don't we discuss another impact stats which is gravity. We have ways to measure that and they're pretty good all be it I don't think that one is easily obtained publicly. It is a direct measure of impact, but not in the terms you've narrowed impact to. You're wanting to look at a much MUCH broader metric and likely either aren't area of others ways to measure impact or made the assumption that there is 1 stat and it must rule them all which is false.

[iggymcfrack]

2000: Shaq
2001: Shaq
2002: Shaq
2003: Duncan
2004: KG
2005: Duncan
2006: Wade
2007: Duncan
2008: KG
2009: LeBron
2010: LeBron
2011: Dirk
2012: LeBron
2013: LeBron
2014: LeBron
2015: Curry
2016: LeBron
2017: LeBron
2018: LeBron

[bledredwine]

Counting regular and postseason
2000: Shaq
2001:Shaq
2002: Shaq
2003: Duncan
2004: Garnett
2005: Nash
2006: Kobe
2007: Kobe
2008: Kobe
2009: LeBron
2010: LeBron
2011: Dirk
2012: LeBron
2013 : LeBron
2014: Durant
2015: LeBron
2016: Curry
2017: Lebron
2018: Durant

This is the real, unbiased list.

[TheSuzerain]

What are the best NBA player year by year since 2000.

My list

2000: Shaq
2001:Shaq
2002: Shaq
2003: Duncan
2004: Garnett
2005: Garnett
2006: Kobe
2007: Kobe
2008: Kobe
2009: LeBron
2010: LeBron
2011: LeBron
2012: LeBron
2013 : LeBron
2014: LeBron
2015: LeBron
2016: Curry
2017: LeBron
2018: LeBron

2008 CP3 > 2008 Kobe

2017 Kawhi > 2017 LeBron

[MR G Styles]

2000 Shaq
2001 Shaq
2002 Shaq
2003 Duncan
2004 Duncan
2005 Duncan
2006 Dirk
2007 James
2008 Wade
2009 Amare
2010 Kobe
2011 Dirk
2012 James
2013 Duncan
2014 Durant
2015 Curry
2016 Curry
2017 Durant
2018 Durant

[mlp22]

2009 Amare

I can't stop laughing at this one.

[Hook_Em]

For those that have Kobe as the best in 09(which is a ridiculous opinion but that’s another story), i’d like to know how Wade isn’t the best in 06?

Kobe was the best player in 2006 in most people's opinion. Sure, the media didn't want to give him MVP because of Colorado, but he was universally thought of as the "Best Player". So much so that he was All-NBA 1st team, with Wade as 2nd team. Kobe was also 1st team All-D. Had two 40 ppg months(only Wilt has done the same in their whole career), and had people watching mid-season NBA games over the NFL playoffs. LA did lose to the #2 seed in 7-games, but you would be hard pressed to find a player who was better than Kobe in 2006. Wade had a fantastic Finals, but wasn't better than Kobe who literally outscored those same Mavs through 3 quarters...by himself.

As for 2009. Kobe was still All-NBA 1s team/All-D 1st team, and was the beat player in the NBA. Lebron may be the most talented player ever, but he didn't learn how to utilize those skills until the 2011 experience where he was forced to. LBJ more than anyone should have went to college. Just a couple years would have done wonders for him, especially off the ball. Would have loved to see 2012-2014 Lebron back in the 09-011 years.

06’ Wade was 06’ Kobe on steroids. His slashing and finishing ability for a guard was second to 80’s MJ. Kobe was a better 3pt shooter and smarter defender that year. Also throw out the Dallas Finals if you’d like. Wade was just as dominant vs Detroit with 45 less FT attempts.

[mlp22]

2000: Shaq
2001: Shaq
2002: Shaq
2003: KG
2004: KG
2005: Duncan
2006: Wade
2007: Duncan
2008: KG
2009: LeBron
2010: LeBron
2011: Dirk
2012: LeBron
2013: LeBron
2014: Durant
2015: Curry
2016: LeBron
2017: Curry
2018: Curry

[I beg to differ]

Cleveland was 29th in defense this past year.

Durant has surpassed LeBron.

[LeviHunter]

2000 Shaq
2001 Shaq
2002 Shaq
2003 Duncan
2004 Duncan
2005 Duncan
2006 Dirk
2007 James
2008 Amare
2009 Wade
2010 Kobe
2011 Dirk
2012 James
2013 Duncan
2014 Durant
2015 Curry
2016 Curry
2017 Durant
2018 Durant

[lolathon234]

This isn’t based on who was the best player in terms of ability, but who had the best year as a whole

00 Shaq
01 Shaq
02 Duncan
03 Duncan
04 Garnett
05 Nash/Garnett
06 Dirk
07 Kobe
08 Kobe
09 LeBron
10 LeBron
11 Dwight
12 LeBron
13 LeBron
14 Durant
15 Curry
16 Curry
17 Durant
18 LeBron

[NY 567]

2000: Shaq
2001:Shaq
2002: Shaq
2003: Duncan
2004: Garnett
2005: Duncan
2006: Nash
2007: Nash
2008: LeBron
2009: LeBron
2010: LeBron
2011: Dirk
2012: LeBron
2013 : LeBron
2014: LeBron
2015: LeBron
2016: LeBron
2017: Lebron
2018: LeBron