James Harden Thread (2018-19)

Colbinii · Post #301 » by **Colbinii** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:13 am

clyde21 wrote:i cant take his numbers seriously knowing he can go 11-32 from the field, 1-17 from 3 and still end up with 38 points, I'm sorry.

I'm pretty sure you need to get in line to hate on him. It starts around the corner.

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thekdog34 · Post #302 » by **thekdog34** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:34 am

K_chile22 wrote:Something interesting is that the CP-Harden minutes have been negative 1.3 this season after being over +12 last season. And it's not like it's CP declining or something because the CP no Harden minutes are still good, as are the Harden no CP. Hard to imagine they just forgot how to play together. Maybe it's just small sample due to injuries and most of that sample came when no one was playing particularly well on the team but worth watching

Maybe a lot of those were with melo or with Paul really struggling with nagging injuries

ardee · Post #303 » by **ardee** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:39 am

Cavsfansince84 wrote:Harden might be the only guy in nba history who can go 1-17 from 3 and the media still thinks he had a great game.

Wtf? I thought you were making a throwaway joke. Just went and checked and you were being serious. 1-17

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Jim Naismith · Post #304 » by **Jim Naismith** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:51 am

ardee wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:Harden might be the only guy in nba history who can go 1-17 from 3 and the media still thinks he had a great game.
Wtf? I thought you were making a throwaway joke. Just went and checked and you were being serious. 1-17

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Remember the Rockets missed 27 straight from 3 in Game 7 of the 2018 WCF.

clyde21 · Post #305 » by **clyde21** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:15 am

Colbinii wrote:
clyde21 wrote:i cant take his numbers seriously knowing he can go 11-32 from the field, 1-17 from 3 and still end up with 38 points, I'm sorry.

I'm pretty sure you need to get in line to hate on him. It starts around the corner.

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i'm not hating, but it's just ridiculous man.

Dupp · Post #306 » by **Dupp** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:22 am

1-17 is crazy. Glad I benched him in fantasy today.

First stinker in a while he’s been fire.

NbaAllDay · Post #307 » by **NbaAllDay** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:24 am

clyde21 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
clyde21 wrote:i cant take his numbers seriously knowing he can go 11-32 from the field, 1-17 from 3 and still end up with 38 points, I'm sorry.

I'm pretty sure you need to get in line to hate on him. It starts around the corner.

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i'm not hating, but it's just ridiculous man.

I get on this instance it's ridiculous but not taking him seriously or saying his numbers are ridiculous trivilaises all the monster games he has had this year, and there are plenty. Are those not serious numbers either?

The 1-17 makes it look horrible, and it was a horrible night, but if he shot 11-32 inside the arc, it wouldn't feel as ridiculous would it?

People would call Kobe a killer even when he had nights that he shot 17-47... or 13-37 etc. There just wasn't a massive 3 point disparity to pick on.

Curry is far more efficient than Harde and this isn't the best comparison but I didn't see him having a 0-11 game from 3 trivilising the rest of his stats for the year.

People are honestly unfairly criticizing Harden to the point where he will only be taken seriously if he scores 40 a night, not the way he plays, but the way THE FANS want him to play, regardless of how effective it works for his team. Now that's ridiculous.

Stepback3GOOD · Post #308 » by **Stepback3GOOD** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:57 am

lol harden finally has a bad game, and all the curry trolls come out to play

harden has broken so many records this year its insane, but because realgm.com always sides with who is the more popular player everything else doesn't matter

If you wanna be real with yourself and honest, you have to go back to 2015-2016 to find the last season curry outplayed harden. the past 3 seasons harden has been better at least in the RS and its not even close. Come on realgm, be real with yourself

Bergmaniac · Post #309 » by **Bergmaniac** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:31 pm

So many of his 3s were way short last night. And he even shot 3 midrange jumpers in the 4th quarter, I guess he's finally getting exhausted of the ridiculous offensive load he's been carrying since Paul got injured.

BasketballFan7 · Post #310 » by **BasketballFan7** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:37 pm

Stepback3GOOD wrote:lol harden finally has a bad game, and all the curry trolls come out to play

harden has broken so many records this year its insane, but because realgm.com always sides with who is the more popular player everything else doesn't matter

If you wanna be real with yourself and honest, you have to go back to 2015-2016 to find the last season curry outplayed harden. the past 3 seasons harden has been better at least in the RS and its not even close. Come on realgm, be real with yourself

RealGM isn't a person. It doesn't have an opinion.

thekdog34 · Post #311 » by **thekdog34** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:10 pm

Even though Harden's 3pt shooting is streaky and he's taking a lot more than early in his career, his season average stays remarkably stable:

2010- 37.5%
2011- 34.9%
2012- 39.0%
2013- 36.8%
2014- 36.6%
2015- 37.5%
2016- 35.9%
2017- 34.7%
2018- 36.7%
2019- 37.8%
Career- 36.6%

You can pretty much expect him to be between 36-38% most years.

Morb · Post #312 » by **Morb** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:53 pm

Harden beats T-Mac and Kobe 30+ pts streaks, abusing rules, 3PA and FTA.)
http://bkref.com/tiny/8IoZi

Dr Spaceman · Post #313 » by **Dr Spaceman** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:21 pm

The craziest stat to me this season is Harden taking 12.7 threes per game. He’s on pace to shatter the record for attempts in a season by over 100. I just can’t wrap my brain around it.

Jaivl · Post #314 » by **Jaivl** » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:30 pm

Morb wrote:Harden beats T-Mac and Kobe 30+ pts streaks, abusing rules, 3PA and FTA.)
http://bkref.com/tiny/8IoZi

Maybe being a better player than both 03 Kobe and T-Mac has something to do too.

Post #315 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:09 am

Dr Spaceman wrote:The craziest stat to me this season is Harden taking 12.7 threes per game. He’s on pace to shatter the record for attempts in a season by over 100. I just can’t wrap my brain around it.

I'll have to track down the exact stat, but his volume and efficiency on pull up 3s over this recent stretch of play is flat out mind bending.

Colbinii · Post #316 » by **Colbinii** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:06 am

Morb wrote:Harden beats T-Mac and Kobe 30+ pts streaks, abusing rules, 3PA and FTA.)
http://bkref.com/tiny/8IoZi

Abusing Rules is weird way of saying Better than.

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K_chile22 · Post #317 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:26 am

36 points at halftime with no CP, no Gordon, no Capela

Post #318 » by **bondom34** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:31 am

I keep checking the box score and it's the wildest thing I can remember seeing :lol:

K_chile22 · Post #319 » by **K_chile22** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:41 am

Grizzlies currently employing the "LEAVE EVERYONE OPEN IF YOU HAVE TO DO NOT LET THAT MAN SHOOT" defense

1993Playoffs · Post #320 » by **1993Playoffs** » Tue Jan 15, 2019 2:47 am

Dude is like a video game this year, 45pts so far