Peaks project update: #7

Gibson22 · Post #1 » by **Gibson22** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 4:29 pm

So, I wasn't able to log in for a week or so and unfortunately I couldn't manage to warn you guys that I would be away for a bit, but luckily someone else (thank you LABird) started the thread for the #6 place, that was won by 03 Duncan over Hakeem and Bill Russell

1) Michael Jordan 1990-91
2) Lebron James 2012-13
3) Wilt Chamberlain 1966-67
4) Shaquille O'neal 1999-2000
5) Kareem Abdul Jabbar 1976-77
6) Tim Duncan 2002-03

Time limit to get your vote in: 60 hours. Please submit your votes by 00:30 AM July 22 Eastern Time

The rules

Reasoning/statistical support is required for votes to be counted. A simple list of names will not be counted.
Window time for votings: 48 hours/thread.

THE VOTING SYSTEM:

Everyone gives their 1st-ballot choice, 2nd-ballot choice, and 3rd-ballot choice. I'll award 4,5 pts for a 1st ballot, 3 for a 2nd ballot, and 2 for a 3rd. Highest point-total wins the spot (24-hour run-off will then only be done in the unlikely event of a tie).

Players don't get credit for all the votes they receive in a round, we just count the votes (and the points) for the designated year. At the end of the 48 hours (not sure about that) the season that has most points wins. Other voted seasons of the winning player will get a mention.

So, you can use your 3 choices to vote for more than 1 season of the same player (if you think that the best 3 seasons among the players left belong all to the same player, nothing is stopping you from using all you 3 choices on that player), but you can't continue voting for other seasons of that player once he wins and gets his spot. The final list will be 1 season per player, with a mention of the other seasons of the winning player who received votes.

Thank you for your partecipation!

Spoiler:

E-Balla · Post #2 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:00 pm

So we just gonna keep copying Shaq 1999-20, huh? :rofl:

Post #3 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:11 pm

Curious, how soon are people looking at Curry?

cecilthesheep · Post #4 » by **cecilthesheep** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:50 pm

His lack of defensive impact holds him back for me, but still pretty soon. My current rough tiers go Russell/Hakeem/KG, then Magic/Curry/Bird or something.

Jaivl · Post #5 » by **Jaivl** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:51 pm

After KG, Hakeem and Russell are out.

Gibson22 · Post #6 » by **Gibson22** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 5:53 pm

About now as far as top 3 ballot, personally. I have russell obviously ahead, probably hakeem, but I wouldn't put steph EASILY below hakeem and bird, nor kg or magic. He's between the 2nd and 4th best peak left for me. I'm starting to look at these guys and jerry west.

Samurai · Post #7 » by **Samurai** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:00 pm

Repeating my vote from previous round:

1. 1993 Hakeem Olajuwon
2. 1965 Bill Russell
3. 1976 Julius Erving

euroleague · Post #8 » by **euroleague** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:22 pm

I debated him 2nd or 3rd in the last thread

Mavericksfan · Post #9 » by **Mavericksfan** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:23 pm

His injuries are the only thing holding him back for me

Either he’s had a top 5ish regular season but battled playoff injuries or a top 5ish playoffs but battled regular season injuries. And Durant takes away from the past couple of seasons.

I think he’s after the Russell/Bird/Magic/Hakeem tier personally.

E-Balla · Post #10 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:49 pm

25ish. His postseason performance in the year I'm taking (2015) leaves much to be desired.

cecilthesheep · Post #11 » by **cecilthesheep** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:02 pm

I know my first two votes are going to be '64 and '65 Russell, but I'm completely on the fence about what Hakeem year I should vote for, '93 or '94...

Odinn21 · Post #12 » by **Odinn21** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 9:41 pm

I still think he'll be voted after;
1961-62 or 1963-64 Bill Russell
1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon
1985-86 Larry Bird
1986-87 Magic Johnson
2003-04 Kevin Garnett

He'll probably be competing against;
1994-95 David Robinson
1976-77 Bill Walton
1975-76 Julius Erving
1963-64 Oscar Robertson
2005-06 or 2008-09 Dwyane Wade
2005-06 Dirk Nowitzki
2007-08 Kobe Bryant
2013-14 Kevin Durant
1989-90 or 1992-93 Charles Barkley
1981-82 or 1982-83 Moses Malone
2007-08 Chris Paul
1965-66 Jerry West
1996-97 Karl Malone

I'm sure Curry won't be making top 12. But he'll probably get into something like top 20.

Game aspects such as defense is a different talk IMHO. His performance in the playoffs after 2015 is still a knock against him.

No-more-rings · Post #13 » by **No-more-rings** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:22 pm

I’m not convinced that Curry’s better than Bird or Magic.

Colbinii · Post #14 » by **Colbinii** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:44 pm

Neither is anyone else, but the comment still stands as "Looking at".

Post #15 » by **penbeast0** » Fri Jul 19, 2019 10:54 pm

1. Russell 62. Wilt had the GOAT stat season of all time, a good supporting team around him (Arizin, Gola, Attles, Rodgers, and Meschery) and Russell's defense STILL made Boston the best team in the league with 60 wins to Philly's 49 and the title.

2. Russell 64. Changed it from 65 after reading other posts.

3. Russell 65.

Bill Russell's impact was greater than any other player in NBA history and that includes Michael Jordan. Because it was defensive impact, not offensive impact, people tend to overlook it in these projects.

And, the pre-expansion 60s teams were stronger, on the average, than the teams of the 70s (Kareem), or 80s (Bird, Magic), and were roughly equivalent to the 90s (Jordan) though not as strong as those of the 21 century. The player pool was smaller but only divided among 8-9 teams rather than 20 some. So, the "weak era" argument isn't valid like it would be vs. a 50s or 70s player.

Also, although there were only two rounds of playoffs, instead of looking by year, look by series. Russell's winning percentage in playoff series blows away any subsequent player in NBA history who didn't play with him including Jordan. He contributed more to winning on those bad offense, great defense Celtic teams than anyone else.

Colbinii · Post #16 » by **Colbinii** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:37 am

I'm also changing my 64 Russell over 65.

1. 62 Russell
2. 64 Russell
3. 65 Russell

Next on the chopping block: Kevin Garnett

Player I am most intrigued by: Julius Erving

pandrade83 · Post #17 » by **pandrade83** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 3:54 am

I'll stick with those who I have voted before with Duncan coming off as no longer being eligible.

#1: '94 Olajuwon - led a softer supporting cast on a fairly challenging title road & did so by shutting down the opposition while elevating Houston's offense.

#2 - '86 Bird - anchored the 2nd GOAT Team (imo), stellar offensive season coupled with a decisively plus defensive year.

#3 - '62 Russell - raised his offensive game in the playoffs against Chamberlain & was dominant defensively.

'87 Magic will round out this tier. After this stellar quartet is in, I'm unclear who I'll be supporting next. I have a well defined career value list, not as well defined of a peak list.

Gregoire · Post #18 » by **Gregoire** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 4:50 am

1. 1993 Hakeem Olajuwon
2. 1994 Hakeem Olajuwon
3. 1986 Larry Bird

Jaivl · Post #19 » by **Jaivl** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:22 am

Me neither, but I'll start looking at him.

E-Balla · Post #20 » by **E-Balla** » Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:34 pm

1. Hakeem 94
2. Dr. J 76
3. Magic Johnson 87

These were all explained in my discussion post in the last thread.