Greatest players to never make an All-Star team

Post #1 » by **penbeast0** » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:14 pm

Mike Conley/Derek Harper/Rod Strickland/Mike Bibby
Ron Harper/Byron Scott/Michael Cooper/Jalen Rose
Cedric Maxwell/Jason Richardson/Tony Kukoc/Clark Kellogg
Serge Ibaka/Lamar Odom/Happy Hairston/Josh Smith
Rudy Gobert/Marcus Camby/Arvidas Sabonis/Sam Perkins

We played a fantasy league once with no All-Stars allowed. Adding Conley and Ibaka, these are the names I can come up with.

wojoaderge · Post #2 » by **wojoaderge** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:43 am

Kevin Porter, Darrell Griffith

Najee12 · Post #3 » by **Najee12** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:52 am

penbeast0 wrote:Mike Conley/Derek Harper/Rod Strickland/Mike Bibby/Michael Ray Richardson
Ron Harper/Byron Scott/Jason Richardson/Jalen Rose
Cedric Maxwell/Gordon Hayward/Tony Kukoc/Clark Kellogg
Serge Ibaka/Lamar Odom/Happy Hairston/Josh Smith
Marcus Camby/Arvidas Sabonis/Sam Perkins

We played a fantasy league once with no All-Stars allowed. Adding Conley and Ibaka, these are the names I can come up with.

Micheal Ray Richardson played in four All-Star Games for New York (1980-82) and New Jersey (1985).

Post #4 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:54 am

Hayward was an All Star in '17. I believe you're thinking of Gobert who made 2 All-NBA teams without any All-Star appearances. He should be high on this list.

Najee12 · Post #5 » by **Najee12** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:24 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:Hayward was an All-Star in '17. I believe you're thinking of Gobert who made 2 All-NBA teams without any All-Star appearances. He should be high on this list.

The fact that Rudy Gobert has two all-NBA bids and three All-Defensive first team bids (and two Defensive Player of the Year awards) makes him the most decorated non-All-Star yet (although he very likely will not be on this list next year).

I'll name a few more non-All-Stars (minimum of 10 NBA seasons or inactive):

PG Andre Miller (11th all-time in assists)
PG/SG Jamal Crawford (19,000 career points, three-time Sixth Man of the Year)
PG/SG Jason Terry (nearly 19,000 career points, 2009 Sixth Man of the Year)
SG Michael Cooper (eight-time NBA All-Defensive Team member, five on the first team)
SG Drazen Petrovic (third team all-NBA 1993, Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame inductee)
SG Lou Williams (three-time Sixth Man of the Year)
SG/SF Eddie Johnson (19,000 career points, 1989 Sixth Man of the Year)
SF Rudy Gay (career average of 17.6 points per game)
SF Orlando Woolridge (four seasons averaging at least 20 points per game)
PF/C Al Jefferson (third team all-NBA 2014, eight seasons averaging at least 16 points and 9 rebounds per game)

Bel · Post #6 » by **Bel** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:43 am

Still blows my mind that young Harper never made an all star team. He was a dynamo and pretty flashy. I'd add Larry Hughes from 2005. 22ppg scorer as a 2nd option, 1st team D.

Michael Cooper and Rudy Gobert would be my top 2 picks though. Absolute travesties that they weren't all stars.

bledredwine · Post #7 » by **bledredwine** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:50 am

I find it amazing that Glenn Robinson didn’t make an all star team until 1999..... but it makes sense why.

Colbinii · Post #8 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:58 am

bledredwine wrote:I find it amazing that Glenn Robinson didn’t make an all star team until 1999..... but it makes sense why.

Being behind Hill and Pippen must have sucked.

Post #9 » by **penbeast0** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:54 am

Thanks, adjusted the OP. Can't remember who was my starting PG then, I was thinking my backcourt was Ray Williams and Sugar Ray . . . it was one of those NY/NJ type guards though. Now I will have that in my head for a while.

Fencer reregistered · Post #10 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:06 am

Al Jefferson is another one who made all-NBA but no all-star teams.

Owly · Post #11 » by **Owly** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:52 am

penbeast0 wrote:Mike Conley/Derek Harper/Rod Strickland/Mike Bibby
Ron Harper/Byron Scott/Michael Cooper/Jalen Rose
Cedric Maxwell/Jason Richardson/Tony Kukoc/Clark Kellogg
Serge Ibaka/Lamar Odom/Happy Hairston/Josh Smith
Rudy Gobert/Marcus Camby/Arvidas Sabonis/Sam Perkins

We played a fantasy league once with no All-Stars allowed. Adding Conley and Ibaka, these are the names I can come up with.

similar project - viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1401869

For single year peaks, using rate-based boxscore composites. Using the old list with limitations on then active players so as not to get players who make it to an ASG later (though including some then still active guys e.g. Ersan - just you don't want to include a Curry or Jokic who were late getting theirs - so Conley wasn't on the list then and probably still should be for me, since he still has a chance, even if competition makes it tough -).

List isn't definitive (even for what it is, which again is aggregating boxscore composites),just me adding players to a list (also the list went down beyond the posted).

Arvydas Sabonis 96
Darrell Armstrong 99
Marcus Camby 2001
Toni Kukoc 96
Cedric Maxwell 80
Rod Strickland 95
Nene 2011
Tree Rollins 1980
Brent Barry 2002
Josh Smith 2010
Al Jefferson 2012
Ron Harper 89
Brian Cardinal 2004
James Posey 2004
Tom Boerwinkle 71
Shawn Bradley 2003
Larry Hughes 2005
Paul Pressey 86
Derek Harper 87
Clifford Ray 73
Andre Miller 2002
Tom Owens 79
Ray Williams 80
Jose Calderon 2008
Donyell Marshall 2001
Ernie Vandeweghe 53
Lamar Odom 2011
Jim Fox 71
John "Hot Rod" Williams 92
Kerry Kittles 2003
Rich Kelley 79
Jason Terry 2007
Marcin Gortat 12
Ersan Illyasova 2012
Byron Scott 88
Oliver Miller 94
Eddie Miller 54
Richard Jefferson 2006
Andray Blatche 2013
Kevin Martin 2011
Don Nelson 75
Ed Pinckney 91
Billy Paultz 78
P.J. Brown 2003
Andrew Bogut 2014
Don Otten 52
Lucius Allen 74
Freddie Brown 76
Chris Andersen 2009
Dave Twardzik 77
Gheorge Muresan 96
Stacey Augmon 94
Jerome Williams 99
Lou (Louis) Williams 2012
Happy Hairston 70
Jon Barry 2003
John "Hot Plate" Williams 89
Nick Anderson 98
Fred Hoiberg 2005
Andris Biedrins 2008
Jeff Foster 2004
Erick Dampier 2004
Darryl Dawkins 86
Mickey Johnson 80
Eric Murdock 94
Micheal Williams 91
Matt Harpring 2003
Mitch Kupchak 77
Danny Schayes 88
Tony Allen 2011
Bob Gross 78
John Lucas 87
Arnie Johnson 52
Doug Christie 2003
Emeka Okafor 2007
Derek Anderson 2001
Corey Maggette 2004
Greg Ballard 82
Mike Gminski 86
Nate McMillan 94
Troy Murphy 2009
Odie Spears 53
Pervis Ellison 92
Brian Taylor 77
Brent Price 96
Charles Smith 90
Kendall Gill 97
Elden Campbell 2002
Leandro Barbosa 2007
Lloyd Neal 78
Chris Morris 93
Kirk Hinrich 2007
Roy Tarpley 88
Todd MacCulloch 2002
Antonio Daniels 2004
Marquis Daniels 2004
Steve Kerr 96
Mike Bibby 2004
Charles (Bo) Outlaw 2001
Swen Nater 77

[edit note: edited in "similar project" to clarify different game to one Penbeast directly involved in)

Amare_1_Knicks · Post #12 » by **Amare_1_Knicks** » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:02 pm

May throw CJ McCollum into the mix. He’s been basically 22/4/4 over the past 4 seasons, and he’s even upped his level of play in the postseason.

Najee12 · Post #13 » by **Najee12** » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:47 am

penbeast0 wrote:Thanks, adjusted the OP. Can't remember who was my starting PG then, I was thinking my backcourt was Ray Williams and Sugar Ray . . . it was one of those NY/NJ type guards though. Now I will have that in my head for a while.

It must have been Ray Williams, Gus Williams' brother, who played for both New York and New Jersey (Micheal Ray Richardson also played for both teams). The interesting thing is Ray Williams had two stints each with the Knicks and Nets.

Post #14 » by **penbeast0** » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:09 pm

Yeah, but can't remember who his backcourt mate was. I had Sabonis, Kellogg, Pressey, Ray Williams, and ? with Herb Williams as 6th man. Ah well.

Owly · Post #15 » by **Owly** » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:58 pm

penbeast0 wrote:Yeah, but can't remember who his backcourt mate was. I had Sabonis, Kellogg, Pressey, Ray Williams, and ? with Herb Williams as 6th man. Ah well.

viewtopic.php?t=1352842 ?

Spoiler:

Includes most of the players you cited above as your highlighted additions and such a format would explain how such a team could have Sabonis (a likely first pick in a draft format) and Pressey. Harper rather than Williams as your New Yorker and fits your blank for another guard (though Ron Harper seems to be a you original addition, unless you edited him in later (thereby doing better than Crawford?).

Hal14 · Post #16 » by **Hal14** » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:57 am

Yeah, they've all been covered here already for the most part. First ones who to to mind for me are Andre Miller, Rod Strickland, Jason Terry, Arvydas Sabonis, Ron Harper and Drazen Petrovic. Of course, Is Sabonis came to the league in 86 when he was originally drafted and if Petrovic didn't pass away tragically obviously both would have gone to many all-star games.