'86 Larry Bird/'03 Tim Duncan vs '12 Lebron James/'95 David Robinson

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'86 Larry Bird/'03 Tim Duncan vs '12 Lebron James/'95 David Robinson 

Post#1 » by Matt15 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:31 am

Which duo would you rather have?
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Re: '86 Larry Bird/'03 Tim Duncan vs '12 Lebron James/'95 David Robinson 

Post#2 » by Odinn21 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 3:09 am

Wonder if you assumed LeBron had a gap over Bird and Duncan at their best and tried to negate it with pairing him up with Admiral who clearly isn't on the level of the other 3.
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Post#3 » by Pg81 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:02 am

Imho Bird and LeBron are pretty close but I think that there is a more notable gap between Admiral and Duncan. Bird and Duncan for me, those two were excellent in half court, where Admiral struggled a little. If they can force a high paced fast break game on Bird and Duncan they might be able to beat them though.
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Post#4 » by euroleague » Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:40 am

Bird is a far more potable player than the others, and him and Duncan are a pretty natural outside/in threat. DRob and LBJ are far more physically dominant, but I don’t think they mesh as well.

Put Bird with DRob, and that would be better than LBJ with him. Ditto Duncan
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Post#5 » by No-more-rings » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:35 pm

I’ll take Duncan/Bird by a small margin. I don’t trust Robinson as an offensive player.
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Post#6 » by Sublime187 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:19 pm

Lebron and Drob. What we're forgetting here is that with a facilitator like Lebron D Rob would be outstanding as a finisher. On top of that, who will guard Lebron? Bird certainly cannot and neither can Duncan on the perimeter. In fact this would be easily D Rob and Lebron.
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Post#7 » by No-more-rings » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:40 pm

Sublime187 wrote:Lebron and Drob. What we're forgetting here is that with a facilitator like Lebron D Rob would be outstanding as a finisher. On top of that, who will guard Lebron? Bird certainly cannot and neither can Duncan on the perimeter. In fact this would be easily D Rob and Lebron.

Where does it say that the 2 teams would be playing each other?
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Post#8 » by Sublime187 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:17 pm

No-more-rings wrote:
Sublime187 wrote:Lebron and Drob. What we're forgetting here is that with a facilitator like Lebron D Rob would be outstanding as a finisher. On top of that, who will guard Lebron? Bird certainly cannot and neither can Duncan on the perimeter. In fact this would be easily D Rob and Lebron.

Where does it say that the 2 teams would be playing each other?


That's true. Lol.
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Post#9 » by henshao » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:29 pm

You can put basically anyone alongside Bird/Duncan and expect rings. Even Miami Lebron IMO was only a begrudging team player.
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Post#10 » by Cavsfansince84 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:12 pm

henshao wrote:You can put basically anyone alongside Bird/Duncan and expect rings. Even Miami Lebron IMO was only a begrudging team player.


I don't even know what this is supposed to mean. I think some people's hate or bias towards LeBron just makes them incapable of properly assessing him as a player.
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Post#11 » by henshao » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:55 pm

Outside of his stint in Miami it has always been Lebron's way or the highway, but that's just my opinion
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Post#12 » by RCM88x » Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:38 pm

henshao wrote:Outside of his stint in Miami it has always been Lebron's way or the highway, but that's just my opinion


Yeah, the Cavs have always instituted successful, unselfish team basketball play outside of the Lebron years. He really should have adopted our systems and philosophies instead of playing in ways to maximize his skills.
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Post#13 » by Colbinii » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:19 am

henshao wrote:Outside of his stint in Miami it has always been Lebron's way or the highway, but that's just my opinion


Even still he allowed players like Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love to play the most efficient basketball of their careers.

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Post#14 » by GeorgeMarcus » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:30 am

I prefer LeBron/D Rob by a good margin
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Re: '86 Larry Bird/'03 Tim Duncan vs '12 Lebron James/'95 David Robinson 

Post#15 » by rrravenred » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:27 am

If Bird/Duncan can slow the game, even slightly, they SHOULD be able to control the game.

LeBron/DRob have a pronounced athletic advantage on both ends (not that pre-injury Bird or Duncan are slouches on that end), but to leverage it they would need to play the game fast (and have two wonderful tools to do so).

Also think DRob's half court struggles would be greatly alleviated by having Lebron as primary ball carrier. Bird and Dunc both excel off ball, so they'd need at least a competent PG to fully dominate the half court. Think Duncan would come out ahead in rebounds, with enough nous to counter Robinson's athleticism. LeBron can limit Bird in a way that I don't think Bird can limit LeBron, so feel the game would come down to how well Robinson defended Duncan in the post (especially given Duncan's intelligence in passing out).

Having said all that, suspect Bird and Duncan's court awareness and BBIQ will give then the edge...

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