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NBA Awards 2019-20 

Post#1 » by Sakattack » Thu Aug 8, 2019 9:49 am

Even though is too early, we could take some guesses on the 2019-20 NBA Awards.

I go first:

MVP:
Well, the candidates here are all of them well known but I would go with Steph Curry this year. He will carry the Warriors without KD and Klay (most of the season) and I think he will do just fine. His numbers probably will go up and the team really needs him.
Dark Horse: Joel Embiid. Philly will have a solid season and Embiid - if healthy - can thrive. It's maybe his time.

ROTY:
The obvious choice is Zion, but I won't go with him. Ja Morant will be my pick. Starter, lots of minutes, plenty of freedom, no pressure for results and a player who I think fits the NBA and his team. Expect him to have an excellent season.
Dark horse: Tyler Herro . He'll get also plenty of time on the court and he is a killer from outside.

DPOTY:
Gobert won it 2 times in a row, AD will be focused on offense, Embiid as well, George plays for a super D-team so he does not need to put a lot of individual effort, same for Leonard. I will go with Giannis here. He is getting better and better on defense every year, I do not see him winning MVP again and was candidate last year too. Why not?
Dark horse: Pat Beverley. Unlike George and Leonard, he will benefit even more from a strong defensive team and he will get some more recognition about it. Plus, he can save ALL his energy on chasing down opponents.

MIP
That's a very hard one. But I expect Lonzo to have a breakout year. It's now or never for him and he has the potential.
Dark horse: Kevon Looney. Unlike that he makes it to the award, but we probably see some serious progress on him this year.

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Lou had enough of them. Time for someone else to win it and I predict Dinwiddie this year. He will be a bench guy for sure, he is a high volume scorer and will only get better. Brooklyn this year will most likely have a good season.
Dark horse: Isaiah Thomas. He has the talent to upset the league, if he manages to get back to his shape.

Nice to have me on board, I have been reading you guys since last year.

Please discuss :)
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Post#2 » by Colbinii » Thu Aug 8, 2019 12:51 pm

Embiid will miss too much time for serious MVP consideration. The lack of spacing on that roster is going to be detrimental as well, though they have enough talent to be the #1 seed out east.

There is 0 chance Patrick Beverly wins DPOY. Rudy Gobert, Draymond Green and Joel Embiid are my leading candidates.
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Post#3 » by freethedevil » Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:32 am

Giannis for mvp. He's playing with role players while his rivals are all playing with talent which will probably hurt their own cases. Add in he's proabably going to be the best player in the league next season and the only real competition i see is curry(as media is too stupid to realize green's value). But curry's unlikely to improve and his team isn't is unlikely to be as good as the bucks.

Gobert, Embid, PG or Giannis for dpoy. Gobert has been the clear #1 defender and is still in his prime. Embid and PG have shown flashes of fpoy potential when healthy. and Giannis has the highest defensive cieling here and will likely get slanted support due to his new found status as the face of the league. Davis also has shown dpoy flashes but the lakers are unlikely to be a top defense and davis's award perceptionis going to take a hit playing with what the media still considers a candidate for best player in the league.

MIP: Lonzo, Trae Young, Jackson Jr for MIP

Lou will for 6moy. He's terrible defensively so he'll get to score againt bench units and put up nice looking stats. Given opposing starters will be used for kawhi and pg, he's likely to post better #'s vs weaker opponents.
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Post#4 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:28 am

MVP: Jokic after Nuggets 1st seed. 2nd choice: Giannis. Embiid (load management) and Curry (playoff mileage) miss too many games.
DPOY: Giannis
MIP: Jaylen Brown breakout season
6th man: Lou Williams again
ROY: Zion
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Post#5 » by giberish » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:29 am

MVP: Most of the top stars are either paired up, or on teams with major depth issues likely to result on a poor regular season record (or both). This leaves Giannis as favorite, with Jokic as a surprising second option.

DPOY: This is Gobert's to lose every year, but Utah likely got worse defensively as a team and that could be held against Gobert. Embiid is a 2nd option - if he can play enough minutes. Myles Turner as an outside option.

MIP: At this point you're mostly trying to guess who will get more minutes and more shots.

ROY: This is Zion's if he plays at least 60 games.

6th: Lou Will and EG favorites.
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Post#6 » by HBK_Kliq_33 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:42 am

MVP: Kawhi Leonard
DPOTY: Kawhi Leonard

(This will be his hakeem season)

MIP: Bagley? not sure that one is always hardest to pick

ROY: Zion

6th man of the year: Lou Williams
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Post#7 » by LoveMyRaps » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:27 pm

If Jokic wins MVP, his acceptance speech will be pure comedy. lmaooo i hope it happens.
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Post#8 » by eminence » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:37 pm

Giannis with the double this season MVP/DPOY. Zion ROY. No input on other races.
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Post#9 » by RCM88x » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:05 am

I can't imagine Giannis getting DPOY unless Milwaukee is both better as a team, better defensively as a team, and self sustaining enough offensively to allow him to put much more effort in defensively, and its a relatively average year for top candidates.

MVP is possible but again tough because of the expectations he's established, I don't put it past him to improve as a player but I don't know if we can expect Milwaukee to be better in the RS than last year, which would need to happen for him to get another MVP, unless there are no other serious candidates.

Jokic would probably be my favorite to win MVP. But I just don't know if an unathletic, white european playing center in Denver can possibly win the award. Especially when his box score numbers aren't eye popping due to his playing time. Maybe if Denver somehow wins 60+ games and impresses everyone he has a shot, but otherwise it'll be tough. Got to put Harden in the mix too, should the WB combo work out. Even Davis, who I'd predict over Lebron just because of expectations and such. But I don't see LAL winning enough games. Definitely going to be an interesting race.
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Post#10 » by KeithCozart » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:36 am

RCM88x wrote:Jokic would probably be my favorite to win MVP. But I just don't know if an unathletic, white european playing center in Denver can possibly win the award. Especially when his box score numbers aren't eye popping due to his playing time. Maybe if Denver somehow wins 60+ games and impresses everyone he has a shot, but otherwise it'll be tough.


I mean, i get what you are saying but if Denver grabs 60 wins and Jokic improves his averages 2-3 points, 1-2 assists and 1-2 rebounds. It's a lock - Jokic MVP.

I don't give a damn about Bearded one, he can average 40 if he wants, Westbrook too.
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Post#11 » by freethedevil » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:40 am

RCM88x wrote:I can't imagine Giannis getting DPOY unless Milwaukee is both better as a team, better defensively as a team, and self sustaining enough offensively to allow him to put much more effort in defensively, and its a relatively average year for top candidates.

I could see him being pushed to dpoy contention the same way MJ and Lebron were. If he's good enough overall, there's a decent chance the media pushes him as the game's best defender and attacker much like how kawhi being a superstar got the media pushing him as one of the league's best defenders.

MVP is possible but again tough because of the expectations he's established, I don't put it past him to improve as a player but I don't know if we can expect Milwaukee to be better in the RS than last year, which would need to happen for him to get another MVP, unless there are no other serious candidates.

Not necessarily. If the league wants to hype him up as the heir to lebron, they'll prolly push for b2b mvp's if he's good enough to justify it.

Also, the fact he's the sole superstar on his side means that he has a distinct advantage over anyone not named jokic or curry. The latter two who will likely have the record **** by playing in the west. Not to mention if the warriors are good enough for mvp contention, the media will probably hype dlo instead of curry.
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Post#12 » by freethedevil » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:41 am

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RCM88x wrote:Jokic would probably be my favorite to win MVP. But I just don't know if an unathletic, white european playing center in Denver can possibly win the award. Especially when his box score numbers aren't eye popping due to his playing time. Maybe if Denver somehow wins 60+ games and impresses everyone he has a shot, but otherwise it'll be tough.


I mean, i get what you are saying but if Denver grabs 60 wins and Jokic improves his averages 2-3 points, 1-2 assists and 1-2 rebounds. It's a lock - Jokic MVP.

I don't give a damn about Bearded one, he can average 40 if he wants, Westbrook too.

Imma remember this when the bucks win 70. 8-)
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Post#13 » by RCM88x » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:46 am

KeithCozart wrote:
RCM88x wrote:Jokic would probably be my favorite to win MVP. But I just don't know if an unathletic, white european playing center in Denver can possibly win the award. Especially when his box score numbers aren't eye popping due to his playing time. Maybe if Denver somehow wins 60+ games and impresses everyone he has a shot, but otherwise it'll be tough.


I mean, i get what you are saying but if Denver grabs 60 wins and Jokic improves his averages 2-3 points, 1-2 assists and 1-2 rebounds. It's a lock - Jokic MVP.

I don't give a damn about Bearded one, he can average 40 if he wants, Westbrook too.


2-3 points, 1-2 assists and 1-2 rebounds is a lot though, much easier said than done, as is 60 wins.
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Post#14 » by KeithCozart » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:46 am

freethedevil wrote:Imma remember this when the bucks win 70. 8-)


If they win 70 and Giannis puts similiar numbers to last season, he should win it of course.
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Post#15 » by RCM88x » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:47 am

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RCM88x wrote:I can't imagine Giannis getting DPOY unless Milwaukee is both better as a team, better defensively as a team, and self sustaining enough offensively to allow him to put much more effort in defensively, and its a relatively average year for top candidates.

I could see him being pushed to dpoy contention the same way MJ and Lebron were. If he's good enough overall, there's a decent chance the media pushes him as the game's best defender and attacker much like how kawhi being a superstar got the media pushing him as one of the league's best defenders.

MVP is possible but again tough because of the expectations he's established, I don't put it past him to improve as a player but I don't know if we can expect Milwaukee to be better in the RS than last year, which would need to happen for him to get another MVP, unless there are no other serious candidates.

Not necessarily. If the league wants to hype him up as the heir to lebron, they'll prolly push for b2b mvp's if he's good enough to justify it.

Also, the fact he's the sole superstar on his side means that he has a distinct advantage over anyone not named jokic or curry. The latter two who will likely have the record **** by playing in the west. Not to mention if the warriors are good enough for mvp contention, the media will probably hype dlo instead of curry.


Maybe, I think he has a long way to go media hype wise after the playoffs, especially if he is going to win an MVP award off of it. I don't really think this is comparable to Kawhi at all, or Lebron.
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Post#16 » by freethedevil » Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:47 am

KeithCozart wrote:
freethedevil wrote:Imma remember this when the bucks win 70. 8-)


If they win 70 and Giannis puts similiar numbers to last season, he should win it of course.

If the bucks win 70, it doesn't matter what his #'s are, he's winning mvp easily.
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Post#17 » by freethedevil » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:05 am

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freethedevil wrote:
RCM88x wrote:I can't imagine Giannis getting DPOY unless Milwaukee is both better as a team, better defensively as a team, and self sustaining enough offensively to allow him to put much more effort in defensively, and its a relatively average year for top candidates.

I could see him being pushed to dpoy contention the same way MJ and Lebron were. If he's good enough overall, there's a decent chance the media pushes him as the game's best defender and attacker much like how kawhi being a superstar got the media pushing him as one of the league's best defenders.

MVP is possible but again tough because of the expectations he's established, I don't put it past him to improve as a player but I don't know if we can expect Milwaukee to be better in the RS than last year, which would need to happen for him to get another MVP, unless there are no other serious candidates.

Not necessarily. If the league wants to hype him up as the heir to lebron, they'll prolly push for b2b mvp's if he's good enough to justify it.

Also, the fact he's the sole superstar on his side means that he has a distinct advantage over anyone not named jokic or curry. The latter two who will likely have the record **** by playing in the west. Not to mention if the warriors are good enough for mvp contention, the media will probably hype dlo instead of curry.


Maybe, I think he has a long way to go media hype wise after the playoffs, especially if he is going to win an MVP award off of it. I don't really think this is comparable to Kawhi at all, or Lebron.

Oh yeah. ESPN did an immediate 180 from giannis could be the best ever to giannis isn't even in the conversation of best in the league after the ecf. :lol:
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Post#18 » by eminence » Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:30 am

Furthering thoughts on Giannis vs competition:

MVP - First among many type of choice here. He gets the benefit of being a lone star unlike most guys and there's a lot of continuity on that roster which is usually nice. Curry/Warriors I don't expect to have the gas to go all out, Harden/Westbrook fit seems very problematic to me, PG13 is coming in injured, Kawhi has his own injury issues and I'm not sold the Clippers take as big of leap as many expect, AD/LeBron leaching from one another and also in danger of underperforming media expectations, hate the fit in Philly for Embiid (plus likely missed time). Jokic is the most interesting competitor to me, but I don't think the Nuggets are quite ready to make the jump this season and if they drop a few spots with the rise of the rest of the West I'd imagine he'd struggle to get the support necessary as a 5 seed instead of top 2 or 3.

DPOY - Actually think he's a relatively clear favorite here. The Jazz D will quite likely take a half step back with the loss of Favors which could leave the Bucks alone atop the league by a clear margin and lead to the de-throning of Gobert (my #2). Turner I don't think is quite ready in terms of respect around the league and the Pacers D is also at risk with the loss of Young and lacking continuity. PG13 injured again and even with the addition of him and Kawhi I doubt their D is elite. Draymond doesn't go near hard enough in the RS anymore (though WCS could rejuvenate the Warriors D). Embiid is a possibility but once again missed games will likely be a factor.

For ROY it seems too easy - if Zion is healthy he'll get high minutes and at least be a serviceable player on a decent team. Other high picks are on teams likely to win 20 something games.

Watch Grant Williams lead the Celtics to the title as MVP/DPOY/ROY/COY though.
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Post#19 » by DatAsh » Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:59 am

I definitely see Giannis as the favorite for both MVP and DPOY. Not too sure beyond that.

MVP - Giannis has an amazing team around him, but no other real superstars. Media generally sees an extra star and limited depth as more helpful than no other stars and great depth.

DPOY - I think the Jazz will get slightly worse, which will make it hard for Gobert, and I see Gobert as the only real guy that's arguably better than Giannis on that end(I have Draymond as the best defender overall, but he only turns it on in the postseason). Giannis is legitimately one of the best defenders in the league, and I think he'll have the best narrative.

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