RealGM All-Time Greatest NBA/ABA Franchises Ranking - #17

Post #1 » by **trex_8063** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 5:19 pm

1. Minneapolis/Los Angeles Lakers
2. Boston Celtics
3. Dallas Chaparrals, San Antonio Spurs
4. Chicago Bulls
5. Syracuse Nationals/Philadelphia 76ers
6. Philly/SF/Golden State Warriors
7. Miami Heat
8. Fort Wayne/Detroit Pistons
9. Houston Rockets
10. New York Knicks
11. Indiana Pacers
12. Seattle Supersonics/OKC Thunder
13. Portland Trailblazers
14. New Orleans/Utah Jazz
15. Phoenix Suns
16. Milwaukee Bucks

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26. Vancouver/Memphis Grizzlies
27. New Orleans Hornets/Pelicans
28. Charlotte Bobcats/Hornets
29. Buffalo Braves/(San Diego)/Los Angeles Clippers
30. Minnesota Timberwolves

Post #2 » by **penbeast0** » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:01 pm

Mavs, Cavs, and Hawks are the 3 teams we have been talking about. Anyone got another team that even approaches mediocrity rather than futility? (Not time for the Wizards yet . . . speaking as a fan whom the team has been making miserable for 50 years).

Of those, Mavs have the Dirk years and the Aguirre years, Cavs have the LeBron years and the Price years, and the Hawks have the Nique years and the Pettit years. I am tempted to eliminate the Hawks because of the racism of the Kern years. Cavs were depressing as hell for a long time and Ted Stepien may be the dumbest owner in NBA history; they actually changed the league rules and awarded the Gund brothers a free 1st round draft choice just for getting him out of the league. So, I guess by elimination it's the Mavs.

Vote: Dallas Mavericks

PS: Forgot Nuggets but their playoff record is pretty awful.

Post #3 » by **trex_8063** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:09 am

rs Win%
Nuggets - .501 (.490 in NBA, .555 in ABA)
Mavericks - .499
Hawks - .495
Cavs - .465

% of Seasons in the Playoffs
Hawks - .657
Nuggets - .654 (.581 in NBA, 1.000 in ABA)
Mavericks - .538
Cavs - .449

% of Seasons going as far as Conference Finals
Hawks - .186
Cavs - .163
Nuggets - .115 (.070 in NBA, .333 in ABA)
Mavericks - .103

Playoff Series Win%
Cavs - .543
Mavericks - .459
Hawks - .366
Nuggets - .277 (.286 in NBA, .250 in ABA)

% of Seasons going to Finals
Cavs - .102
Hawks - .057
Mavericks - .051
Nuggets - .019 (n/a in NBA, .111 in ABA)

% of Seasons Winning Title
Mavericks - .026
Cavs - .0204
Hawks - .014
Nuggets - n/a

Post #4 » by **trex_8063** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:12 am

I think I've been denying the Cavs long enough. In a Cavs vs Mavs comparison, as compared to the Cavs vs Bucks: the deficit the Cavs have in rs win% and % of seasons making the playoffs is significantly smaller. Meanwhile, they have a significantly better playoff series win%, better proportion of deep runs (CF or further), same number of titles [1] but with THREE more finals appearances in just 10 additional seasons (albeit in easier conference). It's close, but I'm gonna go with them.

Vote: Cleveland Cavaliers.

Side-note: by the next thread, I think I need to add in the Nets to the teams I list in the above categories (edit: maybe time to start giving some token thought to the Bullets/Wizards by the 19-20 thread too).

Dr Positivity · Post #5 » by **Dr Positivity** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:42 am

Dallas Mavericks - very solid run with Dirk of consistent 50 W seasons and a title and finals, and some success before in the 80s. A more stable franchise than the Cavs, but close.

Vote Mavericks

Post #6 » by **Fadeaway_J** » Mon Dec 23, 2019 3:40 am

Bucks just beat them last round so it's the Dallas Mavericks for me here. Cleveland had too many garbage years, and even in their peak era I don't think the organisation added much value to the good fortune of drafting (and reacquiring) LeBron.

Post #7 » by **trex_8063** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 5:07 pm

Mavs - 3
Cavs - 1

Calling it for the Mavericks. Will have the next up in a moment, and will probably leave it up a day or so extra given the timing. Happy holidays all.....