PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics]

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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 

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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 

Post#682 » by Goudelock » Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:34 pm

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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 

Post#683 » by E-Balla » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:10 am

Goudelock wrote:
E-Balla wrote:...


Vikings are winning it all this year.

Season will be halted in a few weeks. No one got it lol.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#684 » by eminence » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:49 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:It's not just RealGM. The whole damn internet has turned toxic and has taken the US and other countries with it. It's really sad. The internet used to be such a fun, whimsical place.


Moving this from the 2020 season discussion.

I'm curious as to when you think the internet made the turn for 'toxic' or any big milestones there? I've never paid much attention outside of basketball stuff.

I do think you have the timeline reversed, the world already was a toxic place and the internet's caught up as it became more wide spread.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#685 » by Doctor MJ » Sun Sep 13, 2020 9:32 pm

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Doctor MJ wrote:It's not just RealGM. The whole damn internet has turned toxic and has taken the US and other countries with it. It's really sad. The internet used to be such a fun, whimsical place.


Moving this from the 2020 season discussion.

I'm curious as to when you think the internet made the turn for 'toxic' or any big milestones there? I've never paid much attention outside of basketball stuff.

I do think you have the timeline reversed, the world already was a toxic place and the internet's caught up as it became more wide spread.


Well, I can't talk about it without talking about politics though, because the Trump movement is central to all of this.

If you're looking for a particular incident to focus on where smaller trolling culture becomes a systematic internet-based movement, I'd say Gamergate in 2014.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#686 » by E-Balla » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:13 am

Doctor MJ wrote:
eminence wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:It's not just RealGM. The whole damn internet has turned toxic and has taken the US and other countries with it. It's really sad. The internet used to be such a fun, whimsical place.


Moving this from the 2020 season discussion.

I'm curious as to when you think the internet made the turn for 'toxic' or any big milestones there? I've never paid much attention outside of basketball stuff.

I do think you have the timeline reversed, the world already was a toxic place and the internet's caught up as it became more wide spread.


Well, I can't talk about it without talking about politics though, because the Trump movement is central to all of this.

If you're looking for a particular incident to focus on where smaller trolling culture becomes a systematic internet-based movement, I'd say Gamergate in 2014.

Gamergate was really the depths of the internet coming into the light. The ending of Tumblr (migrating those users to Twitter) was also a problem.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#687 » by GSP » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:26 am

Killa Cam winning Cpoty this season and top 7 in Mvp voting players. You better dig it
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#688 » by Doctor MJ » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:40 pm

E-Balla wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:
eminence wrote:
Moving this from the 2020 season discussion.

I'm curious as to when you think the internet made the turn for 'toxic' or any big milestones there? I've never paid much attention outside of basketball stuff.

I do think you have the timeline reversed, the world already was a toxic place and the internet's caught up as it became more wide spread.


Well, I can't talk about it without talking about politics though, because the Trump movement is central to all of this.

If you're looking for a particular incident to focus on where smaller trolling culture becomes a systematic internet-based movement, I'd say Gamergate in 2014.

Gamergate was really the depths of the internet coming into the light. The ending of Tumblr (migrating those users to Twitter) was also a problem.


Yup, it didn't come out of nowhere but if you're looking for an important moment, that's the touchstone people tend to point to.

I remember I used to go to Fark pretty regularly back in the 00s, and it was just amazing how mean some of the guys were toward women. Like you had this site that by and large was still silly, whimsical humor, but in the comment threads it was just brutal. At the time I didn't chalk up as a part of a rising current, it just made me leave the site, but now the overarching trend was clear.

I do think that the true brutality only came in with anonymous sites like 4chan. Once you had an anonymous community, people enjoying this trolling created an exceptionally potent feedback loop. Add in the sharing of hacking skill into a group of young men who have basically failed to thrive in more mainstream ways, and you're giving angry people means and pointing them toward opportunity for an audience.

And then the truly ugly part: The stuff goes mainstream with the recognition that while young people can be indoctrinated, old people are just incredibly easy marks who can be manipulated toward and beyond traditional grumpiness.

And then of course you can the counter-rage and now everyone is at each other's throats. Literally, you're average person is just far more likely on an intellectual place like Quora to find something to disagree about and then win the argument. I'm not saying I don't like a good debate because I do, but there's a difference between a meaningful rebuttal and the slap-dash dismissiveness that people now mistake for a riposte.

Something I've said a lot lately is that my favorite sites are worse for conversation than they used to be...but nothing better has emerged. The old places are still the best places, but it's a bit like going on to your favorite old jungle gym and getting cut by a rusty edge.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#689 » by Dr Positivity » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:08 am

eminence wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:It's not just RealGM. The whole damn internet has turned toxic and has taken the US and other countries with it. It's really sad. The internet used to be such a fun, whimsical place.


Moving this from the 2020 season discussion.

I'm curious as to when you think the internet made the turn for 'toxic' or any big milestones there? I've never paid much attention outside of basketball stuff.

I do think you have the timeline reversed, the world already was a toxic place and the internet's caught up as it became more wide spread.


I think the turning point was when the internet became driven by likes and RTs on twitter, likes on facebook, upvotes on reddit, etc. All make people say things for the narcissistic dopamine hit of someone validating you on the internet, and every time they make a tweet they thought was good that nobody RTs it hurts their feelings and discourages them from being more genuine. It basically makes social media a competition to get likes and have people notice you instead of non-competitive communication. Without delving too much into politics, the other problem is the clickbait era destroying high quality journalism by forcing stories to be reported 10 seconds after they happen to keep up instead of in the newspaper the next day. Grifters dunking on gullible people all over twitter and facebook leading to the overall gaslighting of society and people's reality slipping away from them, and when people get abused (such as being lied to and used) it's common for them to take it out on others.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#690 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:22 pm

Dating apps are an interesting place
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#691 » by E-Balla » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:22 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:
Yup, it didn't come out of nowhere but if you're looking for an important moment, that's the touchstone people tend to point to.

I remember I used to go to Fark pretty regularly back in the 00s, and it was just amazing how mean some of the guys were toward women. Like you had this site that by and large was still silly, whimsical humor, but in the comment threads it was just brutal. At the time I didn't chalk up as a part of a rising current, it just made me leave the site, but now the overarching trend was clear.

I do think that the true brutality only came in with anonymous sites like 4chan. Once you had an anonymous community, people enjoying this trolling created an exceptionally potent feedback loop. Add in the sharing of hacking skill into a group of young men who have basically failed to thrive in more mainstream ways, and you're giving angry people means and pointing them toward opportunity for an audience.

And then the truly ugly part: The stuff goes mainstream with the recognition that while young people can be indoctrinated, old people are just incredibly easy marks who can be manipulated toward and beyond traditional grumpiness.

And then of course you can the counter-rage and now everyone is at each other's throats. Literally, you're average person is just far more likely on an intellectual place like Quora to find something to disagree about and then win the argument. I'm not saying I don't like a good debate because I do, but there's a difference between a meaningful rebuttal and the slap-dash dismissiveness that people now mistake for a riposte.

Something I've said a lot lately is that my favorite sites are worse for conversation than they used to be...but nothing better has emerged. The old places are still the best places, but it's a bit like going on to your favorite old jungle gym and getting cut by a rusty edge.

As a member of the 4chan generation it really is a website that spawned a strange subculture we now see on both sides of the isle. Avoiding politics is hard here so I might not be able to respond like I'd totally like to but the whole normie vs channer dynamic has grown an insane amount. In one conversation you can immediately tell who grew up online "too much" just based off speaking patterns and cultural references. I get in one group of friends and they'd struggle to sign up for a message board, I go to the other and they're making obscure Boxy and Charlie the Unicorn references.

I definitely agree with what you said about overall discourse on the internet but you know me enough to know I care little about the vitriol. Call my opinion all types of dumb if it is, but to me the discourse has gotten worse because no one jumps in a discussion in good faith anymore. I remember a time where I'd go online to learn new stuff and join chat rooms to expand my mind. Hell that's why I joined RealGM. This is the place that sold me on the idea that Steve Nash deserved 2 MVPs, Allen Iverson didn't deserve any, Bill Russell was better than Wilt and a legitimate GOAT candidate, etc. Hell from you alone we got the super long Deng vs Rose and is James Harden a superstar (back in like 2011) threads and while I didn't come out of the threads completely convinced those threads stayed open discussions full of people changing their minds.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#692 » by E-Balla » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:25 pm

MyUniBroDavis wrote:Dating apps are an interesting place

It's covid times bro you better get off them damn apps. Plus maybe I'm crazy but I feel like you're too young to even pull better on an app vs in person. Anyone willing to chill off a dating app is the last person you'd want to hang with. Do what I did and hit up an old fling to try and get a quarantine girl, you might be a little too late though.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#693 » by MyUniBroDavis » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:56 pm

E-Balla wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:Dating apps are an interesting place

It's covid times bro you better get off them damn apps. Plus maybe I'm crazy but I feel like you're too young to even pull better on an app vs in person. Anyone willing to chill off a dating app is the last person you'd want to hang with. Do what I did and hit up an old fling to try and get a quarantine girl, you might be a little too late though.


Dude im 19 dating apps are like targetted at me lol

Im not down to party and stuff rn cuz covid but its insane how much people dont care my age, theres literally covid in my apartment and roomates r partying in other rooms oof
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#694 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:21 am

Looking forward to South Park's take on 2020
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#695 » by E-Balla » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:33 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:Dating apps are an interesting place

It's covid times bro you better get off them damn apps. Plus maybe I'm crazy but I feel like you're too young to even pull better on an app vs in person. Anyone willing to chill off a dating app is the last person you'd want to hang with. Do what I did and hit up an old fling to try and get a quarantine girl, you might be a little too late though.


Dude im 19 dating apps are like targetted at me lol

Im not down to party and stuff rn cuz covid but its insane how much people dont care my age, theres literally covid in my apartment and roomates r partying in other rooms oof

Dating apps are targeted a little older than you bro lol. That's why it sucks for you so much on it. My ability to pull on Tinder and Bumble have increased exponentially since I've hit my mid 20s. Now the women I talk to don't live on a college campus full of people they could meet in person. :lol:

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I stopped watching SP like nearly a decade ago but I don't think I want their take on 2020 given how they've handled things like climate change in the past. Unless, of course, Matt and Trey finally matured.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#696 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:44 am

E-Balla wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
E-Balla wrote:It's covid times bro you better get off them damn apps. Plus maybe I'm crazy but I feel like you're too young to even pull better on an app vs in person. Anyone willing to chill off a dating app is the last person you'd want to hang with. Do what I did and hit up an old fling to try and get a quarantine girl, you might be a little too late though.


Dude im 19 dating apps are like targetted at me lol

Im not down to party and stuff rn cuz covid but its insane how much people dont care my age, theres literally covid in my apartment and roomates r partying in other rooms oof

Dating apps are targeted a little older than you bro lol. That's why it sucks for you so much on it. My ability to pull on Tinder and Bumble have increased exponentially since I've hit my mid 20s. Now the women I talk to don't live on a college campus full of people they could meet in person. :lol:


Wait when did i say it sucked lol

Besides havent u heard of tinder university lol
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#697 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:49 am

E-Balla wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Looking forward to South Park's take on 2020


I stopped watching SP like nearly a decade ago but I don't think I want their take on 2020 given how they've handled things like climate change in the past. Unless, of course, Matt and Trey finally matured.


I feel like this is their best chance in a while to genuinely piss people off
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#698 » by E-Balla » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:01 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Dude im 19 dating apps are like targetted at me lol

Im not down to party and stuff rn cuz covid but its insane how much people dont care my age, theres literally covid in my apartment and roomates r partying in other rooms oof

Dating apps are targeted a little older than you bro lol. That's why it sucks for you so much on it. My ability to pull on Tinder and Bumble have increased exponentially since I've hit my mid 20s. Now the women I talk to don't live on a college campus full of people they could meet in person. :lol:


Wait when did i say it sucked lol

Besides havent u heard of tinder university lol

NGL I haven't. I been out of college 5 years lol.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#699 » by E-Balla » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:03 am

Dr Positivity wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
Dr Positivity wrote:Looking forward to South Park's take on 2020


I stopped watching SP like nearly a decade ago but I don't think I want their take on 2020 given how they've handled things like climate change in the past. Unless, of course, Matt and Trey finally matured.


I feel like this is their best chance in a while to genuinely piss people off

I mean that's usually their goal. It's also why the last thing we need is another season of South Park for smug contrarians to latch on to lol. I never even seen the episode (it aired well after I stopped watching) and I'm tired of the damn memberberries.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#700 » by MyUniBroDavis » Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:18 am

E-Balla wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Dating apps are targeted a little older than you bro lol. That's why it sucks for you so much on it. My ability to pull on Tinder and Bumble have increased exponentially since I've hit my mid 20s. Now the women I talk to don't live on a college campus full of people they could meet in person. :lol:


Wait when did i say it sucked lol

Besides havent u heard of tinder university lol

NGL I haven't. I been out of college 5 years lol.



Oh its like tinder but you put ur edu email so it shows a logo on the bototm or ur pfp when ur swiping so u can see what uni they go to

Hinge better tho sort by asian lol
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