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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#901 » by MyUniBroDavis » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:14 am

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Jaivl wrote:Y'all look so funny when you say stuff like that, lol.


I am confusion

Not about you two guys, but as a general trend of the States.

All that stuff about grouping people on one of like five imaginary buckets ("white", "black", "latino", "asian"...), and it being so ingrained in society that it even appears in official documents and IDs.

It's absolutely bizarre looking from the outside. Racist pseudoscience from the early 19th century at its fullest. Not useful on determining procedence (at all), not relevant on a genetic level (not even close, if one would want to be biologically precise with clustering, accepting it's possible just for the sake of it, like 80% would be variations of the so-called "african" genome). What purpose does it serve? Just to say "dis dude blak skin"? And judging by Curry being "black" it's not even good at that lol.

(Mind you, do not think I mean to minimize racism using the topical "colors don't exist yadda yadda" cliché either, nor attack the shared heritage and history of, for example, the black population of the USA, or anything like that. Those are different conversations).

And when y'all start speaking about percentages... that's just the icing on the cake lol, always reminds me of Harry Potter.

Please excuse me for this level of... intensity? from a totally innocuous comment.


As someone that’s spent 3/19 years in America I def don’t think this is an American thing lol
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Post#902 » by HeartBreakKid » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:26 am

Jaivl wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Jaivl wrote:Y'all look so funny when you say stuff like that, lol.


I am confusion

Not about you two guys, but as a general trend of the States.

All that stuff about grouping people on one of like five imaginary buckets ("white", "black", "latino", "asian"...), and it being so ingrained in society that it even appears in official documents and IDs.

It's absolutely bizarre looking from the outside. Racist pseudoscience from the early 19th century at its fullest. Not useful on determining procedence (at all), not relevant on a genetic level (not even close, if one would want to be biologically precise with clustering, accepting it's possible just for the sake of it, like 80% would be variations of the so-called "african" genome). What purpose does it serve? Just to say "dis dude blak skin"? And judging by Curry being "black" it's not even good at that lol.

(Mind you, do not think I mean to minimize racism using the topical "colors don't exist yadda yadda" cliché either, nor attack the shared heritage and history of, for example, the black population of the USA, or anything like that. Those are different conversations).

And when y'all start speaking about percentages... that's just the icing on the cake lol, always reminds me of Harry Potter.

Please excuse me for this level of... intensity? from a totally innocuous comment.


Why do you think that is an American thing?

I'm not really sure what you mean by putting race on IDs. You do not have your race on your IDs in USA.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#903 » by Jaivl » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:21 am

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I am confusion

Not about you two guys, but as a general trend of the States.

All that stuff about grouping people on one of like five imaginary buckets ("white", "black", "latino", "asian"...), and it being so ingrained in society that it even appears in official documents and IDs.

It's absolutely bizarre looking from the outside. Racist pseudoscience from the early 19th century at its fullest. Not useful on determining procedence (at all), not relevant on a genetic level (not even close, if one would want to be biologically precise with clustering, accepting it's possible just for the sake of it, like 80% would be variations of the so-called "african" genome). What purpose does it serve? Just to say "dis dude blak skin"? And judging by Curry being "black" it's not even good at that lol.

(Mind you, do not think I mean to minimize racism using the topical "colors don't exist yadda yadda" cliché either, nor attack the shared heritage and history of, for example, the black population of the USA, or anything like that. Those are different conversations).

And when y'all start speaking about percentages... that's just the icing on the cake lol, always reminds me of Harry Potter.

Please excuse me for this level of... intensity? from a totally innocuous comment.


Why do you think that is an American thing?

I'm not really sure what you mean by putting race on IDs. You do not have your race on your IDs in USA.

Census, not ID, excuse me.

Not saying it's "only" a States thing, but as it's definitely the loudest voice you hear over the internet, it's the one that pops out. Just like terraplanism. (And again, not saying either racism is solved here... faaaar from it).
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Post#905 » by bondom34 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:59 pm

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Post#906 » by HeartBreakKid » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:32 am

rip, not even 50 yet
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Post#907 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:24 am

Jaivl wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Jaivl wrote:Y'all look so funny when you say stuff like that, lol.


I am confusion

Not about you two guys, but as a general trend of the States.

All that stuff about grouping people on one of like five imaginary buckets ("white", "black", "latino", "asian"...), and it being so ingrained in society that it even appears in official documents and IDs.

It's absolutely bizarre looking from the outside. Racist pseudoscience from the early 19th century at its fullest. Not useful on determining procedence (at all), not relevant on a genetic level (not even close, if one would want to be biologically precise with clustering, accepting it's possible just for the sake of it, like 80% would be variations of the so-called "african" genome). What purpose does it serve? Just to say "dis dude blak skin"? And judging by Curry being "black" it's not even good at that lol.

(Mind you, do not think I mean to minimize racism using the topical "colors don't exist yadda yadda" cliché either, nor attack the shared heritage and history of, for example, the black population of the USA, or anything like that. Those are different conversations).

And when y'all start speaking about percentages... that's just the icing on the cake lol, always reminds me of Harry Potter.

Please excuse me for this level of... intensity? from a totally innocuous comment.


Dividing people and then using one side's hatred of the other to their benefit has been an incredibly effective political tactic for millennias, race is one of the easiest ways to do it. The amount of energy spent on skin colour may be the thing human beings should be the most embarrassed about in our legacy, it's idiotic.
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Post#908 » by LA Bird » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:35 am

I was collecting datasets off basketball reference and found out there are stats on refs. Is this a recent addition or has it been around for a while and I just never noticed?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/referees/brothto99r.html
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Post#909 » by MisterHibachi » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:15 pm

Anyone here play chess? I downloaded lichess and now I feel addicted to 3 min games.
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Post#910 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:39 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone here play chess? I downloaded lichess and now I feel addicted to 3 min games.


No I've tried to get into it several times but I think honestly I'm just too old at this point to be able to pick it up at any meaningful level.

Also and this is OT a bit, but does it frustrate you guys as much as me that most people think Scrabble is about words and not math? Obviously it gives me an competitive advantage, but as someone who really loves board games particularly strategy ones, it really drives me crazy.
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Post#911 » by Goudelock » Fri Jan 29, 2021 6:19 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone here play chess? I downloaded lichess and now I feel addicted to 3 min games.


I learned the game when I was 10 or so, and just recently tried playing it again after seeing a chess video reccomended for me on YouTube. I'm not very good, but playing against an easy mode computer is fun.
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Post#912 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:45 am

MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone here play chess? I downloaded lichess and now I feel addicted to 3 min games.


I play 10 minute games off chess.com, only played for a few weeks but got to 1200 off youtube videos
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Peregrine01 wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure it should be such a given that the 17 team was better than the 16 version at their peaks.


Lol if you think thats bad

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Post#913 » by MisterHibachi » Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:47 pm

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MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone here play chess? I downloaded lichess and now I feel addicted to 3 min games.


I play 10 minute games off chess.com, only played for a few weeks but got to 1200 off youtube videos


I used to play on chess.com but wasn't invested enough to buy a full membership but I wanted puzzles and computer analysis after every game. Lichess does that without a paid membership. I'm not that great at chess though, I fluctuate between 1200-1400 ELO.
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Post#914 » by MyUniBroDavis » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:02 pm

MisterHibachi wrote:
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MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone here play chess? I downloaded lichess and now I feel addicted to 3 min games.


I play 10 minute games off chess.com, only played for a few weeks but got to 1200 off youtube videos


I used to play on chess.com but wasn't invested enough to buy a full membership but I wanted puzzles and computer analysis after every game. Lichess does that without a paid membership. I'm not that great at chess though, I fluctuate between 1200-1400 ELO.


Lichess elo kinda busted though lol, chess.com tries to copy Fide ratings

I got analysis but I never do puzzles, I mostly like chess cuz of hikaru and gotham
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Peregrine01 wrote:Honestly, I'm not sure it should be such a given that the 17 team was better than the 16 version at their peaks.


Lol if you think thats bad

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Post#916 » by trex_8063 » Mon Feb 1, 2021 4:41 pm

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MisterHibachi wrote:Anyone here play chess? I downloaded lichess and now I feel addicted to 3 min games.


No I've tried to get into it several times but I think honestly I'm just too old at this point to be able to pick it up at any meaningful level.

Also and this is OT a bit, but does it frustrate you guys as much as me that most people think Scrabble is about words and not math? Obviously it gives me an competitive advantage, but as someone who really loves board games particularly strategy ones, it really drives me crazy.


Can't say it drives me crazy, but I certainly recognize the math aspect [and it frequently plays a significant role in which move/word I make]. Could be why I generally win when my wife/son/I play. I mean, obviously we both beat our 10-11 yr-old son [though we do try to handicap things by allowing him proper nouns, and lending occasional help]. But I generally beat my wife, too (and I'm not even sure my vocabulary is as good as hers).

I too have given a lame attempt to get into chess a couple times, but never got there. I have a friend who's pretty good, and he even got me some "Winning Chess for Beginners" [something like that] book, which I never finished.

I used to be very much into poker, fwiw. I was a solid winning player for a few years; almost never play anymore, though I do still have an account and small bankroll on one online poker casino. That's the only game of strategy that I ever got REALLY seriously into.
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Re: PC Board OT Thread Take 4 [No Politics] 

Post#917 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Feb 1, 2021 4:58 pm

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I used to be very much into poker, fwiw. I was a solid winning player for a few years; almost never play anymore, though I do still have an account and small bankroll on one online poker casino. That's the only game of strategy that I ever got REALLY seriously into.


Yeah before Black Friday that was how I was making my living. Was a tournament player mostly with multi-table SNG's mixed in to reduce variance plus I got bored with hold em and realized that mixed games tournaments were a super soft field because the tourney guys were bad at other games and the mixed games specialists had holes in their tourney strategies. Small fields, but they definitely helped offset tournament variance. Also would grind some lower stakes limit hold em($10/$20--couldn't beat bigger games) when I needed a tournament break plus I found it really improved my aggression and ability to make big folds.

Razz and PLO8 my best games. I absolutely sucked at regular PLO and couldn't ever master 2-7 though.

And yeah because it was how I made my living I put in a ton of work getting good. Tried playing live a few times after that, but found it so boring after 12-15 tabling that I wasn't playing my best and haven't really played in a long time so I'm sure some things have passed me by.
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Post#918 » by trex_8063 » Mon Feb 1, 2021 7:16 pm

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I used to be very much into poker, fwiw. I was a solid winning player for a few years; almost never play anymore, though I do still have an account and small bankroll on one online poker casino. That's the only game of strategy that I ever got REALLY seriously into.


Yeah before Black Friday that was how I was making my living. Was a tournament player mostly with multi-table SNG's mixed in to reduce variance plus I got bored with hold em and realized that mixed games tournaments were a super soft field because the tourney guys were bad at other games and the mixed games specialists had holes in their tourney strategies. Small fields, but they definitely helped offset tournament variance. Also would grind some lower stakes limit hold em($10/$20--couldn't beat bigger games) when I needed a tournament break plus I found it really improved my aggression and ability to make big folds.

Razz and PLO8 my best games. I absolutely sucked at regular PLO and couldn't ever master 2-7 though.

And yeah because it was how I made my living I put in a ton of work getting good. Tried playing live a few times after that, but found it so boring after 12-15 tabling that I wasn't playing my best and haven't really played in a long time so I'm sure some things have passed me by.


Oh wow, I was never good enough to be making my living at it, although I did give the idea serious consideration for brief while.
But I figured playing ~40 hours/week at the degree of multi-tabling I was comfortable with [which was no where near 12-15], and the small/micro-stakes I was comfortable playing......I might have been able to pull about 25-30k/year. Not really a living. And that was before Black Friday.

I also didn't think I could handle the pressure or emotional toll that any lengthy run-bad would exert; not when I'm actually playing for a living.
I didn't want it to stop being fun, you know?

I was pretty late to the party, too: MOST of my "poker career" came AFTER Black Friday. I only started playing at all in 2009, and didn't begin taking it seriously [actually studying and putting in the work to get better] until around December 2009. And then our son was born, which put some serious limits on how much time I could play; and then of course BF was in spring 2011.

I kept playing regularly until about 2014, I think, but yeah.....the party was clearly over [even to my newb eyes].
So it remained a free-time hobby; overall I made enough to cover maybe a couple round-trip airfares. :)

To hear the older hands talk about how the tables used to be, like say in 2007 or thereabouts.......well, it sounded pretty awesome. I was a few years late for that. :-?


When you mentioned hold 'em tournaments and sng's, I assume you're talking about NLHE?
I got started playing micro buy-in MTT's in NLHE, too. Did well [after I'd taken some time to study and get serious], though I somehow found NL cash tables to be a completely different animal......and I sorta sucked there.

I eventually found my grove playing FLHE cash tables [usually 6max]; that became my primary game. Some of the same principles as NL, but much less psychology, more math. Instead of playing for stacks, you're looking for thin value at every turn. And you can play more hands with FL, which is more fun than constantly folding [in NL].

I liked Razz a fair bit, too; but hard to find sufficient games post-BF.
Don't know if I was any good. I just scrounged my old records [been a long while since I looked into those]: I was making approximately 2.8 BB/100 at $0.05/$0.10 FL Razz [though on a nearly insignificant sample size].
I otherwise have record of entering an $11 ($10 + $1) FL Razz MTT [which had all of 25 people entered, lol], but I didn't cash (records say I busted 7th of 25, only top 4 were paid).

I found Omaha (of which I mostly played FL, some PL) very frustrating. The variance was maddening. Is there actually higher variance than hold 'em? I don't actually know for sure, but it sure seemed like it to me.
Ultimately a very small sample I played of any version of Omaha, so it may just have been a lot of run-bad (I KNOW there was some: so many sessions of guys playing nearly every damn hand [coming along in raised pots with garbage, etc] and scooping in pot after pot). It happened enough that I basically gave it up.
Probably I sucked some, too.

I barely ever played 2-7 lowball [and definitely sucked at it].


Anyway.......yeah, poker's cool. I kinda miss it sometimes.
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Post#919 » by HeartBreakKid » Tue Feb 2, 2021 12:16 am

25-30k for poker is actually pretty good if you're willing to live abroad. You can make an incredible living if you take into account that 30k is enough to be upper middle class in the majority of countries in the world. Since poker is online you're not really boxed in by the high cost of living of an Anglo major city.

Could live in most parts of Asia on half of that with 30k, or some parts of Europe like Portugal, Croatia, Spain (and I suppose less attractive places to most Western folk like former USSR eastern europe). Mexico, Argentina, Chile all on the table as well as a bunch of smaller countries.


With the savings you would make in a lot of these countries you would get a lot back in investments. You could a very rich life in Thailand especially 10 years ago and save probably half of your income for investing. Within a few years your money would be making money for you.


World wouldn't exactly be your oyster if you had a family though when you started making money. Don't think convincing the wife to go to another country is all that easy unless it's France. :lol:
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Post#920 » by Odinn21 » Tue Feb 2, 2021 7:34 am

I played chess in my kid days (like 6-10 yo), I was getting top 5 placements in regionals but there were some changes in my environment and I dropped it at some point. When I tried to get back into it, I felt too underdeveloped compared to my peers) and my impatience was getting the best of me, chess felt too slow for some reason. Maybe because I couldn't see further moves as quick as I used to.

I was hosting some poker games with no money in my last 2 years in high school under my big bro's supervision. 5 card draw, 5/7/8 card stud, not much Texas or Omaha though. When I got into the college, I played some backroom poker games with money. It felt too dangerous because the other lads were mostly trying to be hip or college-y or something, but I was able to calculate the probabilities already and I was good at reading people, picking up their patterns, never lost in those games, winning felt sweet. But I sensed that I could easily become a gambler down the road against proper players and called it quits before getting into it for real.

Interestingly, you've been talking about two things from my past those I don't miss. :D
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