Kobe Bryant Athleticism

MyUniBroDavis · Post #161 » by **MyUniBroDavis** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:34 am

LakerLegend wrote:

Idk what this proves lol

Kobe was absurdly athletic and that gets underrated, I think he had a 38.5 or 40 inch very which is like 1-2 off of rose and frobe looked it too

D.Brasco · Post #162 » by **D.Brasco** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:29 am

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:

Idk what this proves lol

Kobe was absurdly athletic and that gets underrated, I think he had a 38.5 or 40 inch very which is like 1-2 off of rose and frobe looked it too

I've never seen Kobe listed with a 40" vert, I've usually seen the 37"-38" figure. He never really got his head that high up by the rim but he was very athletic as a young player but he definitely slowed down on that front during the #24 era of his career.

LakerLegend · Post #163 » by **LakerLegend** » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:45 am

19/20 year old Wiggins and 19 year old Kobe.

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LakerLegend · Post #169 » by **LakerLegend** » Mon May 10, 2021 6:37 am

Underrated aspect of Kobe's athleticism: He needed 0 time to "gather" on his jumps.

Jordan was similar in this aspect. If you watch a guy like Carter it seems like he needs more time to "gather" when he jumps.

Just effortless explosion:

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LakerLegend · Post #170 » by **LakerLegend** » Tue May 11, 2021 12:43 am

LakerLegend wrote:Underrated aspect of Kobe's athleticism: He needed 0 time to "gather" on his jumps.

Jordan was similar in this aspect. If you watch a guy like Carter it seems like he needs more time to "gather" when he jumps.

Just effortless explosion:

Another great example:

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Post #171 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue May 11, 2021 7:07 am

Guys like Westbrook and Rose clearly can jump high and are fast, but if you are talking about total athletic package with guards, getting to the rim and finishing there at a high rate is the premium judge imo.

Rose and Westbrook pale in comparison at the rate they get to the rim and finish strong, both in scoring percentage, and overall dunks compared to Kobe. The best year of total # of dunks COMBINED between the 2 isn’t even as high as Kobe in 2002-2003.

I know this is very crude, and people will bring up big men or whatever, but being a big who catches lobs or can dunk after offensice rebounds is different from a slashing guard etc.

I don’t see how they have so much more trouble finishing at the rack or creating those good looks if Kobe isn’t a better overall physical package because of his size added in. If you could convince me that thosee guys were just much better at getting to the rim, but Kobe was a superior finisher, therefore evening out the efficiency somehow, I could buy it, but I don’t think it’s the case.

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Jordan Stopper · Post #172 » by **Jordan Stopper** » Thu May 13, 2021 1:30 am

I feel like it's overlooked because he's held to a different standard.

Because he isn't like Jordan in that regard, then he mustn't be any good at it

LakerLegend · Post #173 » by **LakerLegend** » Tue May 18, 2021 2:10 am

LakerLegend wrote:Underrated aspect of Kobe's athleticism: He needed 0 time to "gather" on his jumps.

Jordan was similar in this aspect. If you watch a guy like Carter it seems like he needs more time to "gather" when he jumps.

Just effortless explosion:

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LakerLegend · Post #174 » by **LakerLegend** » Tue May 18, 2021 11:45 pm

1st play.

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nolang1 · Post #175 » by **nolang1** » Wed May 19, 2021 12:31 am

LakerLegend wrote:1st play.

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I'm still not sure what the point is here, it's like the "I was told Steph Curry can't shoot" tweet. The consensus is that Kobe is indeed a phenomenal athlete but falls a bit short of the absolute best. You can say that he's just as athletic as MJ but just had smaller hands or whatever, but either you can just accept that the general definition of athleticism already includes all that innate physical stuff, or you should be talking about how Muggsy Bogues, Earl Boykins, Spudd Webb, etc. are the greatest athletes in NBA history to have careers at their height.

Otherwise sure that dunk looks great, but it's not something totally jaw-dropping that like Hamidou Diallo couldn't pull off in a game. Like I've said before in this thread, there is a concerted effort by Kobe stans or LeBron haters to act as though he was just like Rudy out there gritting out wins with nothing but his dedication to the game and Mamba Mentality (TM). Obviously you're free to put the difference between Kobe and a Hamidou Diallo (who is still an elite athlete by today's standards and would be even more of an outlier in past eras) on work ethic, skill, intellect, or whatever, but it's not hating on Kobe to say he's a tier below MJ or Giannis or LeBron as far as athleticism goes.

KobesScarf · Post #176 » by **KobesScarf** » Wed May 19, 2021 4:54 pm

nolang1 wrote: act as though he was just like Rudy out there gritting out wins with nothing but his dedication to the game and Mamba Mentality (TM).

I dont think saying he's the 9th most athletic SG is calling him Rudy.

no order
Richardson
Spreewell
Lavine
Jordan
Thompson
Drexler
Wade
Vince

Are just more athletic. But Kobe skill and intangibles are so superior that he's better than all of them except Jordan

LakerLegend · Post #177 » by **LakerLegend** » Thu May 20, 2021 1:49 am

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Post #180 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Fri May 21, 2021 2:48 pm

I don’t see how someone like Zach Lavine is ahead of Kobe unless strength and power mean absolutely nothing. Kobe isn’t LeBron size, but he would manhandle and ragdoll Lavine.

I don’t think Spreewell is at all either.

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