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Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:25 pm
by fantomex
Who is a better player?
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:37 pm
by Colbinii
During their time in the NBA? Nikola Jokic.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:40 pm
by fantomex
Both at peak.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:53 am
by Pipp33
Very hard to judge because of Sabonis' late arrival to the NBA. By the time he was in the NBA, he was essentially past his prime, but was still a very impactful player.
I'd give the edge to Sabonis, but Jokic is the closest thing to him. I'd love to see what Jokic could do if he got his body really fit, because he's already a great player, but he starts out every season overweight and out of conditioning.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:03 am
by 70sFan
Young Sabonis was better player than Jokic, but he was rarely healthy and never reached his real peak.
Because of that give me Joker.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:04 am
by Ryoga Hibiki
Definitely Jokic, if you think Sabonis it is because you're thinking who he might have been and not who he was.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:32 am
by Jiminy Glick
If Sabonis was healthy in his prime? Easily Sabonis. He would have been in the Kareem tier. It was a similar situation to Walton.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:10 pm
by Jaivl
Jiminy Glick wrote:He would have been in the Kareem tier. It was a similar situation to Walton.
Oh, not another KG thread!
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:12 pm
by Gooner
Domantas Sabonis and Jokic would be a better comparison.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:18 pm
by Jiminy Glick
Jaivl wrote:Jiminy Glick wrote:He would have been in the Kareem tier. It was a similar situation to Walton.
Oh, not another KG thread!
I'd rather have prime Garnett on a team over prime LeBron for a tournament that has all great players on each team. Better defender and rebounder and also a great offensive player.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:46 pm
by frica
Jokic, although Sabonis had more talent.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:25 pm
by Ron Swanson
Jokic pretty easily. Not Arvydas' fault that he arrived to the NBA so late, but speculating how good his NBA peak/prime would have been based on assumption and what he did in the Soviet league is too dishonest for me.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:50 pm
by penbeast0
Let's stick to the OP, even if it's a running gag between you two.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:57 pm
by HeartBreakKid
Pre NBA Sabonis? Yeah, he was probably better than Jokic. His scoring was underrated, though his defensive reputation is too high for the lack of footage/data we have of him. I think overall Sabonis does fill in that 7 footer two-way play sweet spot, though Jokic is so good offensively he really doesn't need much defense to become an all time great.
If Sabonis played today he'd also give his teams some major stretch 5 ability. He has crazy gravity from low post, high post and beyond the arc - combine with his passing and big body for screens that guy is going to anchor some great offenses without having to score much.
Re: Arvydas Sabonis Vs Nikola Jokić
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:56 pm
by Clyde Frazier
It would seem the hypothetical healthy prime sabonis in the NBA may have a slight advantage over jokic given his defense. Unfortunately we were never lucky enough to see that. It reminds me, I still haven't checked out what's supposed to be several full games of young sabonis here:
viewtopic.php?p=81270114#p81270114Worth checking out while we have a few more days with no games!