JN61 wrote:3rd or 4th reasonably is the highest. He doesn't have accomplishments to be higher.
16x all-NBA (counting this year)
#3 scoring all-time
#8 assists all-time
#1 playoff points all-time
#1 playoff steals all-time
#3 playoff assists all-time
#6 playoff rebounds all-time
His accomplishments speak for themselves.
Also, since the most popular choice(and i'm willing to bet he's one of the people JN61 thinks lebron can't reasonably be above) here really only has a goat case based on peak, lets see how their most decorated 5 year stretches compare in terms of accomplishments.
2009- 2013 Lebron:
4 MVP's, 2 fmvp's, 5 all-nba first teams
3 mvp's, 2 fmvp's, 5 all-nba's
It was also Lebron who came closest to a unanimous mvp in 13.
It seems that people who argue against Lebron for goat can't be consistent. They set arbitrary time frames(as opposed to just comparing the totality of their career), and then switch their criteria when their preferred candidates are pitting against other ones.