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Order these fmvps on your all time list

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:43 am
by Cavsfansince84
Order the following players by where they would be on your all time list:

Dennis Johnson
Cedric Maxwell
James Worthy
Joe Dumars
Chauncey Billups
Tony Parker
Andre Iguodola

Re: Order these fmvps on your all time list

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:42 am
by dygaction
Should also include Paul Piece and Kawhi's first fmvp.

Re: Order these fmvps on your all time list

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:25 am
by Odinn21
Nice thread!

Iguodala is the last. No doubt about that for me. Though the remaining names are a challenge. I ran a quick tournament with double bracket elimination in myself to see what the list would look like. I guess it's something like this;

Tony Parker
Dennis Johnson
Chauncey Billups
James Worthy
Joe Dumars
Cedric Maxwell
Andre Iguodala

Between Maxwell and Worthy, I'd probably get Maxwell if I had a team. But Worthy's college career is too big to overlook and his career totals are more impressive.
Similar for DJ and Billups versus Parker. But Parker retired with so much more than anyone else on that list. More than 19k points (52nd) and 7k assists (19th) in the NBA history. More than 4k points (9th) and 1k assists (5th) in the NBA playoffs history.
In the NBA playoffs history, Parker is literally in the top 10 of 2 out of 3 major statistical categories.

Re: Order these fmvps on your all time list

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:43 pm
by 70sFan
Dennis Johnson is such an interesting player. He wasn't good at this great PGs usually are - he was always a mediocre shooter and scorer, he also wasn't dynamic playmaker.

That said, he was one of the most athletic guards in the league when he was young and his defense was spectacular in Seattle (watch late 1970s Sonics games if you don't believe me). He also became such a dependable floor general in Boston - he was great at securing the ball, he knew what to do within offensive system and despite being not dynamic playmaker, he was fantastic passer.

I really struggle to rate DJ impact and I've seen a lot of his games from various seasons. He's just not that great offensively, yet he seemed to have huge impact on his teams.

Re: Order these fmvps on your all time list

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 9:38 am
by Sark
1 Worthy
2 Billups
3 Dumars
4 Parker
5 Iguodala
6 Maxwell
7 Johnson

Re: Order these fmvps on your all time list

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:35 am
by trex_8063
Chauncey Billups
Tony Parker
James Worthy
Joe Dumars
Dennis Johnson
Andre Iguodala (or possibly I could see Andre marginally ahead of DJ by this point; we'll see after I update my list at the conclusion of this season)
Cedric Maxwell

Re: Order these fmvps on your all time list

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:40 am
by SHAQ32
Dumars was refined and well-rounded but Iguodala's size, defense, and transition ability make that comparison tough for me. Joe has a higher profile but I'm leaning Iggy there.

Re: Order these fmvps on your all time list

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:47 am
by Cavsfansince84
trex_8063 wrote:Chauncey Billups
Tony Parker
James Worthy
Joe Dumars
Dennis Johnson
Andre Iguodala (or possibly I could see Andre marginally ahead of DJ by this point; we'll see after I update my list at the conclusion of this season)
Cedric Maxwell


That's probably my list as well though I'd be sort of tempted to put Dumars over Worthy due to the defensive advantage.