Jordan Syndrome wrote:Odinn21 wrote:When I see the question, I assumed chronologically.
Jordan had 10 prime seasons from 1986-87 to 1997-98.
James had 10 prime seasons on that level from 2008-09 to 2017-18.
Jordan's rookie season and Washington season are the remaining season for him.
I'm not particularly big on James' 2006-07 or 2007-08 season. Though before reaching his prime, James had more in his career than Jordan.
2018-19 didn't go well enough for James and I'm going to agree with wins-added and championships-added comments made so far.
So, in the end I think I'm going to say this is the season that's James' career value surpassed Jordan's one for sure. With 2018-19 being so little of a value, Jordan and James were on par at the end of 2017-18 season. The debate could go both ways. Now, it's more definite that going in James' way.
You dont think LeBrons 2007 or 2008 campaigns add any value?
2007 includes a 5th place finish in MVP, 2nd in total WS, 5.9 OBPM, 1st in league in VORP.
2008 includes a 4th place finish in MVP, 2nd in total WS, 8.2 OBPM which is 1st in league.
I would also add I believe 1985 Jordan has some real value here as a season and 2006 as well for LeBron.
I understand they may not be "prime" seasons, but they are seasons in which clear value is added both by "championships added" and "wins added".
Sure. Maybe I wasn't clear enough.
There was a discussion between them. One could argue that Jordan's 10 best season stretch was superior to James' 10 best season stretch, superior enough to make up for the gap between Jordan's rookie season and James' seasons before 2008-09.
It was close between the two.
Now, 2019-20 is the season that should kill the debate and it's James. That's what I was saying.