Re: 2020-21 NBA Season Discussion
Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:11 am
Can you imagine Michael Jordan palming a FIBA 3x3 ball?
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frica wrote:I always had a feeling that 3x3 FIBA awards smaller players.
Seems like that's true. Average height is slightly under 6'5:
https://fiba3x3.com/docs/fitness-requirements-of-3x3-players.pdf
Looking through the player rankings, most are either guard or SF sized.
Texas Chuck wrote:frica wrote:I always had a feeling that 3x3 FIBA awards smaller players.
Seems like that's true. Average height is slightly under 6'5:
https://fiba3x3.com/docs/fitness-requirements-of-3x3-players.pdf
Looking through the player rankings, most are either guard or SF sized.
It rewards shooting and endurance. Which favors small players. But with 1's and 2's making 2's is paramount to competing and with non-stop action and 12 second shot clocks you need to be in shape.
That big American woman has been dominant, but even with her they have mostly hunted 2's because the structure dictates it. People hate how many 3's are shot now, but if they played 1's and 2's teams would basically only shoot 1's on breakaways or busted coverage dunks. The massive incentive behind the arc dictates it.
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frica wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:frica wrote:I always had a feeling that 3x3 FIBA awards smaller players.
Seems like that's true. Average height is slightly under 6'5:
https://fiba3x3.com/docs/fitness-requirements-of-3x3-players.pdf
Looking through the player rankings, most are either guard or SF sized.
It rewards shooting and endurance. Which favors small players. But with 1's and 2's making 2's is paramount to competing and with non-stop action and 12 second shot clocks you need to be in shape.
That big American woman has been dominant, but even with her they have mostly hunted 2's because the structure dictates it. People hate how many 3's are shot now, but if they played 1's and 2's teams would basically only shoot 1's on breakaways or busted coverage dunks. The massive incentive behind the arc dictates it.
I'll have to look at the averages in depth, but when I glanced at games this varies extremely widely.
Sometimes a team attempts pretty much no 2s and still wins, other times it's more like what you'd expect to see in an NBA games and other times more 2s than 1s.
Obviously the talent pool is extremely low currently, so maybe that's why we're not seeing a clear meta.
But I'm not so sure on the supremacy on the 2. The 1 is still a very important shot.
If you can't threaten the paint, you're easy to guard. Since the shotclock is only 12 seconds you can't rely on defenses fumbling (and getting an open shot) either.
The 3x3 Eurocup final had 37% of their attempts from 2.
For comparison the NBA finals of 2021 had 34% shots from 3. 2020 finals had 43% of FGA from the 3pt line.
I'll do a more indepth track later. But I really don't think it's as lopsided as you'd think.
In fact, seems healthy despite the 2pt line being so much shorter than the NBA 3pt.
Edit:
There are a lot of 2pt chuckers. But also a lot of highly ranked players who shoot a very high% of their shots from 1.
https://worldtour.fiba3x3.com/2019/stats/world-tour/players
43.8% of shots were from 2 in 2019, while more than the NBA. Not quite as much as you'd expect.
TOV% was 17%, which is more than the NBA has ever had since they started tracking.
frica wrote:"Track & Field doesn't have separate events for skipping, hopping, and galloping"
There'd be if they were easy to regulate.
See racewalking, which also features a lot of refs to check the walkers aren't cheating by having both feet airborne.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racewalking
Dr Positivity wrote:Breaststroke and backstroke are classic common swimming strokes in a way we can't say about say running backwards in running, and there is walking in the olympics as kind of an equivalent. Butterfly being an event is dumb though, I haven't seen anyone swimming butterfly outside of the competitions
Doctor MJ wrote:frica wrote:"Track & Field doesn't have separate events for skipping, hopping, and galloping"
There'd be if they were easy to regulate.
See racewalking, which also features a lot of refs to check the walkers aren't cheating by having both feet airborne.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racewalking
I get your point, but my point is that there's no great need in the world for skip/hop/galloping variants on all the 100m/200m/400m/etc stuff, and that makes it a bit strange to look over to swimming and seeing a guy rack up medals by getting really good at a stroke with no actual practical value.