Better team: CWebb/Peja Kings or KD/Westbrook Thunder?

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Re: Better team: CWebb/Peja Kings or KD/Westbrook Thunder? 

Post#21 » by Joao Saraiva » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:00 am

Drygon wrote:
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heezyo2o wrote:Thunder have the best player, but the Kings were a better team. Think of it this way....do you think that thunder team could take the Kobe/Shaq Lakers to 7 games


The Thunder took the Steph/Dray/Klay 73-win Warriors to 7 games... how about you think of it this way?


Regular season record doesn't tell how good a team actually is in playoffs :lol:

By your logic, I guess any KD Warriors is worse than 2016 GSW?

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heezyo2o wrote:Thunder have the best player, but the Kings were a better team. Think of it this way....do you think that thunder team could take the Kobe/Shaq Lakers to 7 games


They took a better team to 7 games and were up 3-2 as well...


Wrong.

2002 Lakers have 38th highest Playoff SRS (9.44) among 148 BAA/NBA Finalists since 1947.

For comparison, 2016 GSW has 58th highest Playoff SRS...

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RCM88x wrote:Thunder are a lot better imo, however their best version was 2013, WB just got hurt. They were a 60 win, 9 SRS team, one of the best of the 21st century.

All that being said, the 2016 Thunder were better than any Kings team, I don't really feel like the Kings matchup well either Ibaka would be great in Webber, KD would give Peja issues too.


Unfortunately, I can't find Playoff SRS for teams who missed out NBA Finals.

But 2002 Kings had better SRS than 2016 Thunder in regular season at least.


SRS in the playoffs?! No way people are using this.

That is wrong on so many levels. Do you know what you're saying by using SRS?! It makes sense in the regular season, in the playoffs the sample is much smaller, some bad losses are gonna make it look bad, and it can just mean the Cavs and OKC were better opposition than what the Lakers faced.
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Re: Better team: CWebb/Peja Kings or KD/Westbrook Thunder? 

Post#22 » by GSP » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:10 am

RCM88x wrote:Thunder are a lot better imo, however their best version was 2013, WB just got hurt. They were a 60 win, 9 SRS team, one of the best of the 21st century.

All that being said, the 2016 Thunder were better than any Kings team, I don't really feel like the Kings matchup well either Ibaka would be great in Webber, KD would give Peja issues too.


Agree with most of this but Serge has never been much of a lockdown defender even against the mobile Pfs hes closer to size wise. Outside of weakside shotblocking he wasnt really that great of a defender
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Re: Better team: CWebb/Peja Kings or KD/Westbrook Thunder? 

Post#23 » by freethedevil » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:46 am

heezyo2o wrote:Thunder have the best player, but the Kings were a better team. Think of it this way....do you think that thunder team could take the Kobe/Shaq Lakers to 7 games

They played 65 win basketball at full strength and then smacked down a 70 win team before taking the warriors to 7

Just because shaq and kobe didn't change their names from 01 to 02 doesn't suddenly make them the same team.

Also, westbrook was better that season.
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Re: Better team: CWebb/Peja Kings or KD/Westbrook Thunder? 

Post#24 » by freethedevil » Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:48 am

RCM88x wrote:Thunder are a lot better imo, however their best version was 2013, WB just got hurt. They were a 60 win, 9 SRS team, one of the best of the 21st century.

The 16 thunder played 65 win basketball when healthy and actually backed up the hype by smashing a 70 win team in the second round.

By your own choice of evidence the 16 thunder were clearly better.
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Re: Better team: CWebb/Peja Kings or KD/Westbrook Thunder? 

Post#25 » by RCM88x » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:51 pm

freethedevil wrote:
RCM88x wrote:Thunder are a lot better imo, however their best version was 2013, WB just got hurt. They were a 60 win, 9 SRS team, one of the best of the 21st century.

The 16 thunder played 65 win basketball when healthy and actually backed up the hype by smashing a 70 win team in the second round.

By your own choice of evidence the 16 thunder were clearly better.


But they weren't healthy, they're was a reason they finished 4th overall that season, and only one game ahead of Toronto.
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Re: Better team: CWebb/Peja Kings or KD/Westbrook Thunder? 

Post#26 » by freethedevil » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:40 pm

RCM88x wrote:
freethedevil wrote:
RCM88x wrote:Thunder are a lot better imo, however their best version was 2013, WB just got hurt. They were a 60 win, 9 SRS team, one of the best of the 21st century.

The 16 thunder played 65 win basketball when healthy and actually backed up the hype by smashing a 70 win team in the second round.

By your own choice of evidence the 16 thunder were clearly better.


But they weren't healthy, they're was a reason they finished 4th overall that season, and only one game ahead of Toronto.

Okay? they were heathy come playoff time and operated like an atg team, I guess that doens't matter because they didn't win 60 rs games?

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