LAL1947 wrote:I'd been wondering where all the Timmy-loving myths came from on this forum. Now I know. You are the source... and the biggest pusher of so many untruths, stretches of imagination, and mental gymnastics related to dear ole Timmy.
I don't want to ruin your world, but Duncan was ranked clearly higher than Kobe on this board before I even created my account.
Tim Duncan was never in the conversation for best player in the league from 2005-06 onward. Most certainly not in 2006-07. The best players in the league from 2005-06 onward were Kobe, Dirk, Lebron... with Nash, D-Wade in the mix for a bit.
By what criteria? Duncan is ranked among very best in terms of impact metrics. Duncan is ranked among very best in terms of accolades. Duncan is ranked among very best in terms of RS and postseason success. What are your criteria? Popularity?
Timmy slipped and fell into the group just below with Amare, KG, Pierce, Melo and others.
Sure, comparing Duncan to Melo or Amar'e is far more proper statement. Stop embarassing yourself.
Not only that, but Tony Parker won the Finals MVP in 2006-07. Imagine that!! if Kobe had won a title with Pau winning Finals MVP... I shudder to think of how you'd use that against Kobe in your quest to prop your beloved Timmy dearest over him, lol.
Again, you fail to understand that there are people who don't rank players based on FMVPs or other random accolades. I have no problem with Parker winning the FMVP - he scored the most points and that's the apex of analysis among FMVP voters. I also wouldn't have anything against Pau winning the FMVP in 2010, because he had excellent series. It doesn't matter, Duncan was the leader of 2007 Spurs and Kobe was the leader of 2010 Lakers.
Again, you use your criteria on me. I'd never have any problems with admitting that Kobe was clearly superior than Pau even if Gasol would have won the FMVP.
In the Hakeem vs Duncan thread, you tried suggesting that Timmy had the same or better level of offense/defense... and that Timmy even had a better face-up game, lol.
The sheer fact that you find this opinion funny tells me that you only watch Hakeem highlights. Olajuwon had good, but limited face-up game. I know that, because I just finished wacthing 35 Hakeem games from 1993 and 1994, all while tracking his shooting data, defensive tendencies and decision making.
You've also tried suggesting that Magic was an equivalent "shooter" to Kobe.
It's certainly close. Kobe was much better at creating midrange shots, but Magic was more efficient. Of course, the toughness of shots taken should be counted but it's not as straightforward as some believe.
The icing on the cake has been your post in the "lowest ranking for Kobe" thread, where you try to suggest that "Magic's Lakers in 1988-1991 had a less talented supporting cast than any team Kobe had after Shaq left". I can't even imagine trying to compare a team with James Worthy, AC Green, Mychal Thompson, etc to Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, Luke Walton, Smush Parker, etc... never mind even reaching the conclusion that Magic had the less talented supporting cast, hahaha!
I never said that, you just all made it up. I said that Kobe played with arguably more talented teams in 2008-10 than Magic in 1988-91, but never anchored as good offenses as Magic.