2021-22 NBA Season Discussion

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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#961 » by feyki » Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:58 pm

Coaching is world different job than playing. Many of great captains,leaders can't coach well in both football and basketball. Remember the Bucks series, Durant had to play like Iverson. Before Harden injured, Harden's making the offensive schemes of the team. Doncic has zero space this year with Kidd. Carlisle was at least good offensive coach for guards. Many thinks he's a good coach, overall, because of the 2011 Playoffs; but besides the 2011 Finals zone defence move, he had no effect on that team. 2011 Mavs probably the best starting five team since 04 Pistons.

I have zero expectation from Cuban, though. He's one of the worst basketball minded president in the NBA. Think about Dirk with Riley.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#962 » by LukaTheGOAT » Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:37 pm

Is that Nets chatter I hear?

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Post#963 » by LukaTheGOAT » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:04 pm

eminence wrote:Also, the Jazz are playing like butt without Gobert.


Rudy Gobert missed 3 games and the Jazz defense went from 5th to 12th...
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Post#964 » by LukaTheGOAT » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:08 pm

LukaTheGOAT wrote:Is that Nets chatter I hear?



This might sound crazy, but if the Nets Big 3 end up not looking great in the small sample before the trade deadline, it might make sense to trade Kyrie for like Myles Turner...still early, though.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#965 » by Doctor MJ » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:13 pm

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LukaTheGOAT wrote:Is that Nets chatter I hear?



This might sound crazy, but if the Nets Big 3 end up not looking great in the small sample before the trade deadline, it might make sense to trade Kyrie for like Myles Turner...still early, though.


Basketball sense, but hard to imagine based on the Player Empowerment sense of how the team got together.
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Post#966 » by MisterHibachi » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:37 pm

LukaTheGOAT wrote:
LukaTheGOAT wrote:Is that Nets chatter I hear?



This might sound crazy, but if the Nets Big 3 end up not looking great in the small sample before the trade deadline, it might make sense to trade Kyrie for like Myles Turner...still early, though.


The part time player stuff notwithstanding, probably makes more sense to trade Harden. He hasn't really looked like himself since he got to Brooklyn and you could get a bigger haul for him than for Kyrie. Simmons would be a nice third piece next to KD and a full time Kyrie.
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Post#967 » by Ballerhogger » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:39 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:
LukaTheGOAT wrote:
LukaTheGOAT wrote:Is that Nets chatter I hear?



This might sound crazy, but if the Nets Big 3 end up not looking great in the small sample before the trade deadline, it might make sense to trade Kyrie for like Myles Turner...still early, though.


Basketball sense, but hard to imagine based on the Player Empowerment sense of how the team got together.
KD would never let it fly either hes reason he went to the Nets in the first place
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#968 » by cpower » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:42 pm

Nets is ranked 11th defense this year, i dont think they are a mess. Their offense is the issue.
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Post#969 » by eminence » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:48 pm

LukaTheGOAT wrote:
eminence wrote:Also, the Jazz are playing like butt without Gobert.


Rudy Gobert missed 3 games and the Jazz defense went from 5th to 12th...


78 points in a half to the Pistons, oof.
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Post#970 » by falcolombardi » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:54 pm

gobert has allowed jazz lousy defense to look better than it really is

it was not gobert being Exposed by the clippers but the jazz as a whole, even a great rim protector can not take care of defense alone
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Post#971 » by parsnips33 » Tue Jan 11, 2022 11:15 pm

I know a lot of Warriors fans hate the idea of investing a lot in a center, but I've always had fun imagining a situation where Warriors get a chance to put Gobert next to Draymond

Not realistic, but could you imagine how good a defense with those two would be
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Post#972 » by cupcakesnake » Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:01 am

Ballerhogger wrote:
Doctor MJ wrote:
LukaTheGOAT wrote:
This might sound crazy, but if the Nets Big 3 end up not looking great in the small sample before the trade deadline, it might make sense to trade Kyrie for like Myles Turner...still early, though.


Basketball sense, but hard to imagine based on the Player Empowerment sense of how the team got together.
KD would never let it fly either hes reason he went to the Nets in the first place


I'd be surprised if that was still the case. Durant souds supportive of Kyrie, but regardless of their personal relationship, I can't picture a 33-year-old player chasing rings, would mandate that his team pay/keep Kyrie at all cost.

Kyrie can't be traded because he's a wild card and has a player option next season. It would be tough to find a trade partner that was willing to give up useful, win-now assets, for player who can make himself a 3-month rental.

Kyrie can't bring back positive value, even if he consented to the trade destination. He's considered unpredictable. He forced a trade out of Cleveland under the threat of knee surgery, he verbally committed to Boston and then reneged a couple months later when the team hit a rough patch. He took time off last year for undisclosed reasons, and then there's the decisions he made this year.
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Post#973 » by LukaTheGOAT » Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:28 am

cpower wrote:Nets is ranked 11th defense this year, i dont think they are a mess. Their offense is the issue.


Based on the vid I posted that might not be sustainable.
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Post#974 » by Peregrine01 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:38 am

This Warriors defense is really something else. They can just stop teams seemingly on call. And it's not all on Draymond either. The way they move and work together is reminiscent of the way they play on offense.
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Post#975 » by HeartBreakKid » Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:51 am

parsnips33 wrote:I know a lot of Warriors fans hate the idea of investing a lot in a center, but I've always had fun imagining a situation where Warriors get a chance to put Gobert next to Draymond

Not realistic, but could you imagine how good a defense with those two would be


Their payroll is already incredibly high isn't it? how much more can they invest? :P
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Post#976 » by falcolombardi » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:02 am

LukaTheGOAT wrote:
cpower wrote:Nets is ranked 11th defense this year, i dont think they are a mess. Their offense is the issue.


Based on the vid I posted that might not be sustainable.


why is that? are they getting lucky with oponent 3 point shooting?
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Post#977 » by LukaTheGOAT » Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:06 am

falcolombardi wrote:
LukaTheGOAT wrote:
cpower wrote:Nets is ranked 11th defense this year, i dont think they are a mess. Their offense is the issue.


Based on the vid I posted that might not be sustainable.


why is that? are they getting lucky with oponent 3 point shooting?


Yes and they give up a lot of open threes.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#978 » by GSP » Wed Jan 12, 2022 6:28 am

Stephs defensive issues get highlighted alot when he doesnt have the best help defender in the league out there covering all his mistakes. Putrid defensive game from him
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#979 » by RCM88x » Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:35 pm

Good thing the Nets have going for them is just how weak the top of the conference is looking currently. They definitely have their issues but I just cant imagine them losing a series to a team lead by Demar Derozan and Zach Lavine no matter how many issues they have right now.

Miami and Bucks are their biggest threats for sure, but I am beginning to question either teams ability to stay healthy at this point. At least feel like the Bucks can turn it on when needed and take it to the next level, but meh, for anyone else it would be a pretty massive upset.
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Re: 2021-22 NBA Season Discussion 

Post#980 » by parsnips33 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:18 pm

A Memphis-Golden State playoff matchup would be so fun.

Not that I want to play them necessarily, but that would be an instant classic series

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