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TroubleS0me wrote:For the series vs Mavs CP3
AST 5.7
TOV 3.1
Bridges
3pt FG% 27.8
Overall FG% 40
Doctor MJ wrote:TroubleS0me wrote:Kidd took away Cp3 strength, his passing
Disagree on two fronts:
1. Paul's strength is not passing but turnover reduction and opponent error generation.
2. And while Paul's assists were low, that's not where the Mavs hit Paul hardest from game 3 on.
Paul Game 1 & 2: APG - 5.5, TOPG - 2.0, FTPG - 4.0
Paul Game 3 - 7: APG - 5.8, TOPG - 3.6, FTPG - 0.8
Notice that while Paul's assists were down the whole series, that didn't stop the team from having insane ORtg's in the first couple games. But once Paul started being forced into more mistakes, that seemed to disrupt the whole scheme.
There's always more to the story than what these stats can say, but at least for this series I'd say that the problem with Paul as a game-manager floor general is that he stopped being able to manage the game.
dygaction wrote:TroubleS0me wrote:For the series vs Mavs CP3
AST 5.7
TOV 3.1
Bridges
3pt FG% 27.8
Overall FG% 40
Guarding Luka is a full time job. The energy you can spend on offense would be like driving a Uber after work.
Bojan Bogdanović was averaging 25p @ 60/41/92 the first three Utah/Mavs games. When Luka came back and he was tasked to guard Luka, he averaged 11p @ 32/25/64. Bridges was going through the same.
fromthetop321 wrote:I got Lebron number 1, he is also leading defensive player of the year. Curry's game still reminds me of Jeremy Lin to much.
Doctor MJ wrote:TroubleS0me wrote:Kidd took away Cp3 strength, his passing
Disagree on two fronts:
1. Paul's strength is not passing but turnover reduction and opponent error generation.
2. And while Paul's assists were low, that's not where the Mavs hit Paul hardest from game 3 on.
Paul Game 1 & 2: APG - 5.5, TOPG - 2.0, FTPG - 4.0
Paul Game 3 - 7: APG - 5.8, TOPG - 3.6, FTPG - 0.8
Notice that while Paul's assists were down the whole series, that didn't stop the team from having insane ORtg's in the first couple games. But once Paul started being forced into more mistakes, that seemed to disrupt the whole scheme.
There's always more to the story than what these stats can say, but at least for this series I'd say that the problem with Paul as a game-manager floor general is that he stopped being able to manage the game.
iggymcfrack wrote: I have Bird #19 and Kobe #20 on my all-time list and both guys will probably get passed by Jokic by the end of this season.
MartinToVaught wrote:
GSP wrote:ShotCreator wrote:Just in a defensive rhythm.
Thybulle is my point of attack GOAT, but just look at this:
7 steals, 1 block, and this. I’ve never seen him with hands this good. Even in LAC, he was using his speed to make pick sixes. This is just flat out taking the basketball on literally the first dribble of the first dribble move, at will.
It’s about as insane as Curry running around catching and draining 3’s from every angle. It’s cheat code ish.
This was a 10+ deflections game. Absolutely insane.ShotCreator wrote:Two things. Passing way more aggressively than any year I can remember. And he’s back to ball hawking on defense. His speed on breaking on the ball and his effort at the point of attack is far higher than last year.
I think having just .7 steals per game in the finals made him refocus on this. Shows how much in game ability is learned. It can be unlearned like his past two years.
Much better player than the past two years because of all this. I don’t think he was anything special in OKC or last year. I actually prefer in “bad year” in Houston because he could still play good defense then.
He’s barely not a top 10 kind of player so far IMO.
Where was Cp2-0s ball hawking defense in playoffs? He was a good defensive Pg by 9 all defense teams is a TRAVESTY
ShotCreator wrote:GSP wrote:ShotCreator wrote:Just in a defensive rhythm.
Thybulle is my point of attack GOAT, but just look at this:
7 steals, 1 block, and this. I’ve never seen him with hands this good. Even in LAC, he was using his speed to make pick sixes. This is just flat out taking the basketball on literally the first dribble of the first dribble move, at will.
It’s about as insane as Curry running around catching and draining 3’s from every angle. It’s cheat code ish.
This was a 10+ deflections game. Absolutely insane.ShotCreator wrote:Two things. Passing way more aggressively than any year I can remember. And he’s back to ball hawking on defense. His speed on breaking on the ball and his effort at the point of attack is far higher than last year.
I think having just .7 steals per game in the finals made him refocus on this. Shows how much in game ability is learned. It can be unlearned like his past two years.
Much better player than the past two years because of all this. I don’t think he was anything special in OKC or last year. I actually prefer in “bad year” in Houston because he could still play good defense then.
He’s barely not a top 10 kind of player so far IMO.
Where was Cp2-0s ball hawking defense in playoffs? He was a good defensive Pg by 9 all defense teams is a TRAVESTY
Do you realize you’re not gonna ruin any enjoyment I have of watching this old version of Chris Paul at any point? Or ruin my enjoyment of reaching bad takes at times. Or anybody else’s.
Stop trying so hard. You’re not even good at what you’re doing. And this really isn’t the forum for you to get the attention you want.
If you actually ever for a moment made an honest attempt at having a point in what you say other than to rile me up(and this is not that, this is a disappointing acknowledgment), I might actually fall for what you’re trying to do.
But anyone here can see right through you. Just some tips when you wanna elevate in your attempt to gain these imaginary wins and losses on this forum.
iggymcfrack wrote: I have Bird #19 and Kobe #20 on my all-time list and both guys will probably get passed by Jokic by the end of this season.
Doctor MJ wrote:I don't understand why people jump in a thread and say basically, "This thing you're all talking about. I'm too ignorant to know anything about it. Lollerskates!"
