Replace 2005-2010 Steve Nash with 2016-2021 Steph Curry.

AMW27 · Post #1 » by **AMW27** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:47 am

How many titles do the Suns win?

Statlanta · Post #2 » by **Statlanta** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:38 pm

2.

2017, 2018

I could see an argument against 2018.

DirtyDez · Post #3 » by **DirtyDez** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:04 pm

I’ll say one. 2010.

Nash was still great but past his peak.

Prokorov · Post #4 » by **Prokorov** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:05 pm

AMW27 wrote:How many titles do the Suns win?

they win every title curry is healthy for. they would be one of the best teams of all time.

McBubbles · Post #5 » by **McBubbles** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:16 pm

Whatever year Nash got hip checked, think it was 07. They definitely win that one. Maybe 2010 as well.

mdonnelly1989 · Post #6 » by **mdonnelly1989** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:52 pm

The dynamic would change quite a bit. Nash is one of the best floor generals of all time. Historically great passer, top 5 of all time.

Neither are going to make a huge impact defensively so we will call that a wash so we are going specifically on offense.

It's interesting because Nash is considered a top 10 perimeter shooter too on top of his Goat stat floor general. His usage rate in the scoring deparement is limited somewhat limiting his shooting ability IMO.

Curry's gravity, and driving skills are enough to overcome the difference between Nashs floor general skills giving the Suns 2 Chips during that span of time.

DirtyDez · Post #7 » by **DirtyDez** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:17 am

Prokorov wrote:
AMW27 wrote:How many titles do the Suns win?

they win every title curry is healthy for. they would be one of the best teams of all time.

They would not be a GOAT caliber team. Not even close without rim protection or depth.

Prokorov · Post #8 » by **Prokorov** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:22 am

DirtyDez wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
AMW27 wrote:How many titles do the Suns win?

they win every title curry is healthy for. they would be one of the best teams of all time.

They would not be a GOAT caliber team. Not even close without rim protection or depth.

They wouldnt need either in that era. they would be the best offense of all time (GSW better overall, but given era suns would score more per possesion).

HeartBreakKid · Post #9 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:54 am

None? I mean out of all the things you're going to upgrade the Suns, you're going to try to upgrade an all time great offensive player with another all time great offensive player?

The Suns didn't lose because Steve Nash wasn't good enough.

Cavsfansince84 · Post #10 » by **Cavsfansince84** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 5:06 am

I'm not really sold on them improving much if at all. They are extremely different players. Curry for most of the gs run didn't even run the offense like a traditional pg so I'm not sure at all that he could step in and get near as much as Nash did out of those teammates. It would look and function very differently. Plus you also have Curry's injuries to deal with as well. I am leaning toward 0 or maybe 1 title.

feyki · Post #11 » by **feyki** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:25 am

4. Also, with 2015/20 instead of 16/21; it's 5. Nash was not Curry kind of player to paralyze that much easily.

Also, 3 or 4 times FMVP and 2 or 3 MVP's he would get.

Only issue was his defence, Warriors would have not been that much good defensive team. But I prefer resillinecy over 1 SRS drop on the overall team value. Warriors may have been a bit worse team, but they would've won more with Nash.

Strepbacter · Post #12 » by **Strepbacter** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:06 am

Nash was a loser and one of the most overrated players of all time.

Replace that choker with Curry and they win multiple titles.

therealbig3 · Post #13 » by **therealbig3** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:52 am

They get worse.

I don’t think Curry was as good as Nash.

And anyway, their issue was their defense…this doesn’t address that at all.

Asianiac_24 · Post #14 » by **Asianiac_24** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:22 am

2005 and 2007

AMW27 · Post #15 » by **AMW27** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:15 pm

I understand that Curry and Nash's play style are different, but I feel like Curry would improve their chances. I'd say they win no more than one with Curry. I would say 2010 would be their best chance.

Post #16 » by **Doctor MJ** » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:20 pm

Jumping in here: I said zero.

I don't think people understand that Nash's teams were probably the greatest offensive outlier with him on the court in the history of the NBA. Anyone imagining you could incrementally increase that team's scheme just because Curry's a better scorer needs to think it through more, because the Suns operated with 1 guy doing all the thinking for his team, and that man was probably the best basketball decision maker we've ever seen.

It's not just that Curry isn't a Nash-level decision maker though. It's the fact that literally we haven't actually seen Curry try to be a floor general anything like this since Kerr came to town. Hence, if you're imagining Curry literally doing what Nash did (with better shooting), you're imagining something you've never really seen.

Strepbacter · Post #17 » by **Strepbacter** » Tue Nov 2, 2021 6:20 am

Nash was a loser. He got two MVP awards that he clearly didn't deserve and now he's getting comparisons to guys who are in a totally different class.

Post #18 » by **PaulieWal** » Wed Nov 3, 2021 1:13 am

Strepbacter wrote:Nash was a loser and one of the most overrated players of all time.

Replace that choker with Curry and they win multiple titles.

Strepbacter wrote:Nash was a loser. He got two MVP awards that he clearly didn't deserve and now he's getting comparisons to guys who are in a totally different class.

So let me just ask you on a human level, what are you getting out of these kinda posts?

homecourtloss · Post #19 » by **homecourtloss** » Wed Nov 3, 2021 1:14 am

PaulieWal wrote:
Strepbacter wrote:Nash was a loser and one of the most overrated players of all time.

Replace that choker with Curry and they win multiple titles.

Strepbacter wrote:Nash was a loser. He got two MVP awards that he clearly didn't deserve and now he's getting comparisons to guys who are in a totally different class.

So let me just ask you on a human level, what are you getting out of these kinda posts?

“Loser,” “Dork,” “Lebum,” etc.—it’s just sad.

Post #20 » by **PaulieWal** » Wed Nov 3, 2021 1:17 am

homecourtloss wrote:
“Loser,” “Dork,” “Lebum,” etc.—it’s just sad.

Your reply is not helping. Let's not go there please.

How many titles do the Suns win with Curry instead of Nash in the given time span?