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Jordan vs Shaq 1 on 1
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 7:10 am
by Gregoire
Who would win 1 On 1 in their prime under the following rules:
First to 11 wins (half court)
1 and 2 points
Both players have 6 fouls and if they foul out they lose
Both players are always in the bonus
1 FT after foul
loser outs
EDiT: 10 sec shot-clock
Re: Jordan vs Shaq 1 on 1
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 2:58 pm
by Statlanta
88-93 Jordan vs. Prime Shaq: Jordan.
85-87/96-98 Jordan vs. Prime Shaq: Shaq.
Re: Jordan vs Shaq 1 on 1
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:19 pm
by penbeast0
Jordan scores roughly 80% of the time from 2, 40%+ from 3, Shaq scores 100% of the time always on dunks and layups (assuming the refs let him bulldoze Jordan the way they let him play post in his era . . . which would not have been allowed in most other eras). IF it was 1 and 1, Shaq wins, but 1 and 2, it's close. Who gets the ball first? (Hint, they win most of the time)
Re: Jordan vs Shaq 1 on 1
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:23 pm
by Peregrine01
Loser outs, Jordan has a good chance especially since he has 6 fouls and the ball will be presumably checked at the top of the key.
Re: Jordan vs Shaq 1 on 1
Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 4:43 pm
by onedayattatime
while quantitative analysis is valuable and has its place, i think these threads expose the flaws in perceiving a player as simply a bag of numbers. because it's tempting to say, "jordan is 55% from 2 but shaq is 60%! so it'll be a close one" or "well how about steph, he can shoot some 3's so maybe he'll win."
but unless 'shaq' is a nickname for kevin garnett that i was unaware of, he has 0 ability to prevent a guard from blowing past him every single time. and i don't see how he's going to get the ball into the post - is he going to dribble it for 20 feet while jordan to be mutombo? it would have been one-sided in jordan's favor.
Re: Jordan vs Shaq 1 on 1
Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:52 am
by Gregoire
With these rules IMO Shaq's FT would be a factor, so Jordan have good chance to go to 11 before fouling out (5 fouls).
Re: Jordan vs Shaq 1 on 1
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:57 am
by Gregoire
I forgot about shot-clock.
EDIT: 10 sec shot-clock would be fine IMO.
Re: Jordan vs Shaq 1 on 1
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:30 pm
by Djoker
Jordan could tactically foul Shaq when he gets deep inside position and Shaq would probably miss some free throws. The 10 second shot clock also hurts Shaq who would be short on time to back MJ in all the way to the basket. As others said Shaq would also have to give MJ space because of his speed and couldn't afford to foul. MJ would win comfortably IMO in this scenario.