2003 Michael Jordan + non-scoring elite role players

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How far will this roster go?

Non-Play In lotto
4
44%
Play-In loser
1
11%
Quarterfinals loser
3
33%
Semifinals loser
0
No votes
Conference Finals loser
1
11%
NBA Finals loser
0
No votes
NBA Championship winners
0
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Total votes: 9

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2003 Michael Jordan + non-scoring elite role players 

Post#1 » by SelakStreet » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:18 am

In any era in NBA history, how far would a team get consisting of one 40+ year old scorer Michael Jordan plus a scoring-limited roster of role players?

So something like this:

1992 John Paxson / 1997 B.J. Armstrong
2003 Michael Jordan / 1990 Craig Hodges
2003 Scottie Pippen / 1992 Dennis Hopson
2001 Horace Grant / 1992 Stacey King / 1990 Cliff Levingston
1992 Bill Cartwright / 1997 Will Perdue / 2000 Scott Williams
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Re: 2003 Michael Jordan + non-scoring elite role players 

Post#2 » by falcolombardi » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:31 am

playoffs first round

the depth is cool but 2003 jordan was not that good and still demanded 20+shots a game, and nobody else there is particularly good to take the load off him
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Re: 2003 Michael Jordan + non-scoring elite role players 

Post#3 » by SelakStreet » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:32 am

falcolombardi wrote:playoffs first round

the depth is cool but 2003 jordan was not that good and still demanded 20+shots a game, and nobody else there is particularly good to take the load off him


Who would’ve been the second and third go-to scoring options outside of 2003 Michael Jordan?
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Re: 2003 Michael Jordan + non-scoring elite role players 

Post#4 » by falcolombardi » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:54 am

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SelakStreet wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:playoffs first round

the depth is cool but 2003 jordan was not that good and still demanded 20+shots a game, and nobody else there is particularly good to take the load off him


Who would’ve been the second and third go-to scoring options outside of 2003 Michael Jordan?


pippen i guess, although to be honest none od those guys sans jordan are good enough to be a good second option (and Wizards jordan is not good enough to be a good first option )
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Re: 2003 Michael Jordan + non-scoring elite role players 

Post#5 » by rand » Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:18 am

There are three key reasons I think this team's prospects are significantly worse than the "Rubio + non-scoring elite roleplayers" team's:

(1) Shooting. The other team is stuffed full of great spot up 3pt shooters, even at the 4. This team has only three quality 3pt shooters, they're all small guards, and two of them are selected at years where they happened to shoot sub 30% on 3PAs in the regular season. This would especially kill them in the modern game.

(2) Age. The other team's average age is much younger; almost everyone is under 33 and Howard is the senior citizen at 34. The average number of seasons left in each player's career is much larger with the other team. This team has three starters age 35+. As a team they're going to fare worse with injuries, worse on B2Bs, worse wearing down late in the season, etc.

(3) Speed. Partially related to age, the other team is much faster. They're going to be able to play at a higher pace on both ends of the floor. They're also going to be much more capable of playing small with more guys able to play small 4/5, another asset in the modern game.

I think this team would miss the playoffs, probably miss the play-in.
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Re: 2003 Michael Jordan + non-scoring elite role players 

Post#6 » by Mazter » Fri Jan 14, 2022 1:25 pm

falcolombardi wrote:pippen i guess, although to be honest none od those guys sans jordan are good enough to be a good second option (and Wizards jordan is not good enough to be a good first option )

Yet you have them as first round team. I think this team would be lucky to win 20 games. You have 3 has beens with a bunch of guys who used to perform with these has beens in there prime. That's a recipe for disaster. It already isn't a efficient combination and still someone will have to shoot more to full fill the shooting quota. We basically already know who that guy is going to be and he waas already shooting too much at that point.
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Re: 2003 Michael Jordan + non-scoring elite role players 

Post#7 » by falcolombardi » Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:52 pm

Mazter wrote:
falcolombardi wrote:pippen i guess, although to be honest none od those guys sans jordan are good enough to be a good second option (and Wizards jordan is not good enough to be a good first option )

Yet you have them as first round team. I think this team would be lucky to win 20 games. You have 3 has beens with a bunch of guys who used to perform with these has beens in there prime. That's a recipe for disaster. It already isn't a efficient combination and still someone will have to shoot more to full fill the shooting quota. We basically already know who that guy is going to be and he waas already shooting too much at that point.


yeah, even that first round estimation may have been overly generous

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