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Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Fri Feb 4, 2022 12:25 pm
by SUPERVILLAIN
1. Who's in the top 5 all-time?
2. Who's in the top 5 among active players?
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Fri Feb 4, 2022 5:51 pm
by Im Your Father
I feel like they're probably all current players, just because this wasn't a shot that was that valued/prevalent until pretty recently.
Off the top of my head I'd say - Curry, Harden, Durant, Irving and struggling to think of a clear fifth (but maybe I'm missing someone obvious).
From past eras, shout out to Gilbert Arenas.
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Fri Feb 4, 2022 6:00 pm
by wutevahung
Im Your Father wrote:I feel like they're probably all current players, just because this wasn't a shot that was that valued/prevalent until pretty recently.
Off the top of my head I'd say - Curry, Harden, Durant, Irving and struggling to think of a clear fifth (but maybe I'm missing someone obvious).
From past eras, shout out to Gilbert Arenas.
Maybe Dame for 5th?
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Fri Feb 4, 2022 7:41 pm
by Im Your Father
wutevahung wrote:Im Your Father wrote:I feel like they're probably all current players, just because this wasn't a shot that was that valued/prevalent until pretty recently.
Off the top of my head I'd say - Curry, Harden, Durant, Irving and struggling to think of a clear fifth (but maybe I'm missing someone obvious).
From past eras, shout out to Gilbert Arenas.
Maybe Dame for 5th?
Oh
definitely Dame, I knew I was forgetting someone.
I honestly think these are probably the 5 GOAT off the dribble 3-point shooters too, based on my point before (re: not really a skill that was regularly cultivated until pretty recently).
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 11:10 am
by rand
Kobe was an amazing off-the-dribble 3pt shooter, especially considering how unlike most of the other guys mentioned he wasn't actually a great 3pt shooter to begin with.
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 11:52 am
by SUPERVILLAIN
1. Curry
2. Dame
3. Harden
4. PG13
5. LaVine
As for the retired players, shout out to Joe Johnson and Gilbert Arenas.
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 1:27 pm
by Bad Gatorade
In an empirical attempt to help establish the best current off-the-dribble 3 point shooters, I've taken the last 5 seasons of "pull up" shooting data as per NBA.com and accrued a list of all players that have attempted > 500 off-the-dribble 3s in the past 5 years.
Sorted by volume -
Sorted by percentage -
Not necessarily a hard ranking, but might be handy for informing/consolidating opinion.
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:09 pm
by homecourtloss
Bad Gatorade wrote:In an empirical attempt to help establish the best current off-the-dribble 3 point shooters, I've taken the last 5 seasons of "pull up" shooting data as per NBA.com and accrued a list of all players that have attempted > 500 off-the-dribble 3s in the past 5 years.
Sorted by volume -
Sorted by percentage -
Not necessarily a hard ranking, but might be handy for informing/consolidating opinion.
I wonder how many “eye-test” enthusiasts would be surprised to see LeBron and KD virtually tied in pull-up three percentages with LeBron taking twice as many pull-up threes (Bron has played about 60+ more games in this span).
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Sat Feb 5, 2022 8:32 pm
by Mavrelous
homecourtloss wrote:Bad Gatorade wrote:In an empirical attempt to help establish the best current off-the-dribble 3 point shooters, I've taken the last 5 seasons of "pull up" shooting data as per NBA.com and accrued a list of all players that have attempted > 500 off-the-dribble 3s in the past 5 years.
Sorted by volume -
Sorted by percentage -
Not necessarily a hard ranking, but might be handy for informing/consolidating opinion.
I wonder how many “eye-test” enthusiasts would be surprised to see LeBron and KD virtually tied in pull-up three percentages with LeBron taking twice as many pull-up threes (Bron has played about 60+ more games in this span).
That is very surprising...
This is Steph for both questions, inactive players worth mentioning, Nash, Kobe, MJ.
Current players Dame, and the Nets big 3.
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2022 11:36 pm
by Goudelock
rand wrote:Kobe was an amazing off-the-dribble 3pt shooter, especially considering how unlike most of the other guys mentioned he wasn't actually a great 3pt shooter to begin with.
And now we have Luka Doncic, who is the new-age Kobe from the standpoint that he's a very good shooter who takes too many tough shots to make him an uber-efficient scorer.
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Sun Feb 6, 2022 11:48 pm
by Im Your Father
Goudelock wrote:rand wrote:Kobe was an amazing off-the-dribble 3pt shooter, especially considering how unlike most of the other guys mentioned he wasn't actually a great 3pt shooter to begin with.
And now we have Luka Doncic, who is the new-age Kobe from the standpoint that he's a very good shooter who takes too many tough shots to make him an uber-efficient scorer.
Hmm I definitely see the comparison but I also just think Kobe was a better shooter with a better stroke in general. I think free throw percentage is pretty telling in this case.
I'll admit that I haven't looked at a ton of detailed stats on this, so it could be that i'm way off and that e.g., Luka has great catch and shoot percentages.,
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Mon Feb 7, 2022 2:07 am
by JimmyFromNz
How about Ben Gordon as an honourable mention? He was a sublime off the dribble 3 point shooter, his problem was he could do very little else. In terms of the narrow scope of the question.
Tracy McGrady and Tim Hardaway Sr are a couple of names that if we project into today's game would be deadly with the pull up.
Re: Best off-the-dribble 3-point shooters
Posted: Mon Feb 7, 2022 2:27 am
by Texas Chuck
yeah Luka is definitely not a very good shooter. He's an incredible shot-maker and scorer, but not a great shooter. Yes he takes tough 3's but he'd not be a high 30's guy if he got catch and shoot opportunities either. And look at his mediocre FT shooting.
Kobe definitely a better shooter, Luka definitely much more dangerous as a finisher/playmaker once he's gotten into the paint.