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Luka/Butler vs Draymond/Webber vs Nash/Vince

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:30 pm
by durantbird
Which duo would you rather build around?

Re: Luka/Butler vs Draymond/Webber vs Nash/Vince

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 9:42 pm
by Im Your Father
I think Nash and VC is clearly the best fit, given that neither of Draymond or Webber (despite firing away from mid range frequently) can really shoot.

Neither Luka nor Jimmy Butler is much a spacer and they both like the ball, but I think I'd probably still take this duo.

Re: Luka/Butler vs Draymond/Webber vs Nash/Vince

Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:47 pm
by HeartBreakKid
Nash is easily the best player here, and Vince is better than Green, Webber and Butler (well, there is a thread about him vs Butler).

They both have little overlap on offense as well.

Re: Luka/Butler vs Draymond/Webber vs Nash/Vince

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:01 am
by Jaivl
How is having the best AND second best careers on the same team fair? Not much overlap either.

Re: Luka/Butler vs Draymond/Webber vs Nash/Vince

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 10:59 am
by The-Power
Jaivl wrote:How is having the best AND second best careers on the same team fair? Not much overlap either.

It's quite likely that Luka will have the best career out of these players.

Re: Luka/Butler vs Draymond/Webber vs Nash/Vince

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 11:27 am
by Jaivl
The-Power wrote:
Jaivl wrote:How is having the best AND second best careers on the same team fair? Not much overlap either.

It's quite likely that Luka will have the best career out of these players.

Is it? He has the talent to do so, but he seems pretty content with not getting in shape and just relying on his natural gifts.

(Then again, Steve Nash followed a similar career arc, lol). But right now that's a tough sell versus an ironman like Nash, who was probably a small level ahead on his peak IMO.

Re: Luka/Butler vs Draymond/Webber vs Nash/Vince

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 12:12 pm
by The-Power
Jaivl wrote:
The-Power wrote:
Jaivl wrote:How is having the best AND second best careers on the same team fair? Not much overlap either.

It's quite likely that Luka will have the best career out of these players.

Is it? He has the talent to do so, but he seems pretty content with not getting in shape and just relying on his natural gifts.

(Then again, Steve Nash followed a similar career arc, lol). But right now that's a tough sell versus an ironman like Nash, who was probably a small level ahead on his peak IMO.

I'd consider it likely, yes (though not a given). He certainly is on that trajectory. My key point, though, is that a simple look at their careers is not really a be-all and end-all argument when the poll involves players that are still active and therefore some projection is required to answer the question.

Re: Luka/Butler vs Draymond/Webber vs Nash/Vince

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:50 pm
by dygaction
Jaivl wrote:How is having the best AND second best careers on the same team fair? Not much overlap either.


You think Vince, who peaked for 1x 2nd all-nba and 1x 3rd all-nba the second best of the bunch?