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generally as time passes is mainly the superstars who stay in people minds and memories, followed closely by all star talent of great teams or memorable role players in great teams
as well as the ocasional player remembered for other reasons unrelated to basketball dominance

think of all the great players from any era who are for the most part forgotten despite being perennial all star talent or fantastic super role players, even the ocasional mvp talents nobody ever mentions

and who do you think will have that fate from current era?

Tom Gola . . . the original Magic Johnson with guard skills in a forward's body but not a scorer so not remembered much.
Cliff Hagan . . . always in the shadow of Bob Pettit but very good player for a few years and one who picked it up in the playoffs
Roger Brown, Willie Wise, Mack Calvin, Louis Dampier . . . the ABA guys

Players who have been forgotten:
Brandon Roy
Gilbert Arenas
Nate Archibald

Players Who Will Be Forgotten:
Dwight Howard might end up forgotten (didn't make NBA 75 List, so wonder how people view him)
Derrick Rose (Short Peak and might not end up in HOF)

Dan Roundfield

I underestimated Rudy LaRusso for a while as a legit 3rd banana all star on 60s Lakers until we did the hall of fame project a few years back.

Gus Williams profile being low, is pretty surprising for a best offensive player on a champion team, if anything you would think he would have been overrated compared td DJ and Sikma like Isiah vs Laimbeer

In recent years I feel Deng was a very good player that I feel may end up underrated, due to his style of game quickly becoming out of ashion

Some recent or somewhat recent names I'm thinking of.

Zach Randolph- He made only 2 all star games, and one all nba, but his longevity was probably better than people realize. He was roughly a 20/10 guy for like 8 straight seasons and had 4-5 good seasons after that. Not a good passer, not a great defender but a solid one. Marc Gasol gets way more notoriety on the grit and grind era Grizzlies, but Zach was their best player when they upset the Spurs that one year and was certainly very valuable every year after. I remember him sort of punking down Blake Griffin in some of their match ups too. I'd argue his career was clearly better than someone like Jermaine Oneal, even if his peak is a bit worse, and O'neal seems to get mentioned more. Jermaine had like a very injury riddled 5-6 year prime and very little to offer outside of that.

Ron Artest/Metta- I think people will forget mostly due to his antics and clownish behavior, but he's not a dude any perimeter player wanted to be guarded by. He was more than just a defensive specialist, he was more than capable of scoring 20-25 in any random game, was a solid passer. He might get remembered because of Malice at the Palace, but not because of his actual game imo. His role also gets underrated on the title winning Lakers squad. He was probably their 2nd most important defender after Pau. He was no Kawhi Leonard to be clear, but he was no Tony Allen either.

Danny Granger- Maybe it's justified since his injuries cut him short, but I think some might be surprised to find out he averaged 26 ppg on good efficiency at his peak.

Luol Deng- Never anything close to a superstar, but played an important role in multiple series wins. 3rd best player on the the 2011 and 2012 Bulls who were legit contenders. Did make 2 all star games, I think most would be surprised to hear he made any.

Deron Williams- Dwill was definitely a borderline superstar for about 3-4 seasons. In 2007 led his team to the WCF, led the 1st ranked offense in 2008. He was a good passer, a good floor general, good shooter, a good scorer overall and an average defender more or less. But he definitely knew how to run an offense. I'm not sure he should be considered any worse than someone like Lillard when talking about peaks. Then injuries took a hold, and honestly i remember work ethic becoming an issue for him as well. He was a joke by the time he got to the Cavs and was only 32.

A whole list of very good players who get little mention or attention here on RealGM.

Jack Sikma. Dave Bing. Bill Bridges. Bill Bradley. Bob Lanier. Calvin Murphy. Sam Jones. Sidney Moncrief. Nate Thurmond. Nate Archibald. Mel Daniels. Zelmo Beaty. Gus Johnson. David Thompson. Michael Redd. Hal Greer. Louie Dampier. Ron Harper. Clyde Drexler. Gail Goodrich. Billy Cunningham. Jerry Lucas. Dave DeBusschere. Spencer Haywood. Wes Unseld. Jerry Sloan. John Havlicek. Bob Pettit. Grant Hill. Alex English.

Don't know--other than lack of recency and younger posters not ever having seen them--why these guys get so little love on here. They were all really good. Give me my pick of them in their primes on one team today, and , and I'll beat hell out of the Warriors, the Nets, or any other current team you care to mention.

countryboy667 wrote:A whole list of very good players who get little mention or attention here on RealGM.

Jack Sikma. Dave Bing. Bill Bridges. Bill Bradley. Bob Lanier. Calvin Murphy. Sam Jones. Sidney Moncrief. Nate Thurmond. Nate Archibald. Mel Daniels. Zelmo Beaty. Gus Johnson. David Thompson. Michael Redd. Hal Greer. Louie Dampier. Ron Harper. Clyde Drexler. Gail Goodrich. Billy Cunningham. Jerry Lucas. Dave DeBusschere. Spencer Haywood. Jerry Sloan. John Havlicek. Bob Pettit. Grant Hill. Alex English.

Don't know--other than lack of recency and younger posters not ever having seen them--why these guys get so little love on here. They were all really good. Give me my pick of them in their primes on one team today, and , and I'll beat hell out of the Warriors, the Nets, or any other current team you care to mention.

I would give you Murphy, Goodrich, Bradley, Bridges, and Haywood and bet you that with that little playmaking and rim protection, that you are a 1 and out in the playoffs. I'd give you Isiah Thomas as GM to make sure.

Seriously, you have some good names there though I would say Sid,Thurmond, Zelmo, Havlicek, and Pettit get plenty of mention here, probably DeBusschere too. Other casual sites I agree with you.

penbeast0 wrote:

countryboy667 wrote:A whole list of very good players who get little mention or attention here on RealGM.

Jack Sikma. Dave Bing. Bill Bridges. Bill Bradley. Bob Lanier. Calvin Murphy. Sam Jones. Sidney Moncrief. Nate Thurmond. Nate Archibald. Mel Daniels. Zelmo Beaty. Gus Johnson. David Thompson. Michael Redd. Hal Greer. Louie Dampier. Ron Harper. Clyde Drexler. Gail Goodrich. Billy Cunningham. Jerry Lucas. Dave DeBusschere. Spencer Haywood. Jerry Sloan. John Havlicek. Bob Pettit. Grant Hill. Alex English.

Don't know--other than lack of recency and younger posters not ever having seen them--why these guys get so little love on here. They were all really good. Give me my pick of them in their primes on one team today, and , and I'll beat hell out of the Warriors, the Nets, or any other current team you care to mention.

I would give you Calvin, Goodrich, Bradley, Bridges, and Haywood and bet you that with that little playmaking and rim protection, that you are a 1 and out in the playoffs. I'd give you Isiah Thomas as GM to make sure.

Seriously, you have some good names there though I would say Sid,Thurmond, Zelmo, Havlicek, and Pettit get plenty of mention here, probably DeBusschere too. Other casual sites I agree with you.

How do you think of Team Of Bob Lanier/Mel Daniels, Jerry Lucas/Bob Pettit, Billy Cunningham/Gus Johnson, Sidney Moncrief/John Havlicek, Michael Redd/Calvin Murphy would do today? Kinda just picked them at random off the list by position...

Most of the other combos would be very strong. Don't like the defense of Lanier and Lucas together, Gus and Billy today would be better as a pair of forwards with one of Lanier, Lucas, Pettit, or Daniels as a center, Redd and Moncrief is the same guard issue of mediocre playmaking though I'd have Sid as the 1 and Redd as the 2.

LukaTheGOAT wrote:Players who have been forgotten:
Brandon Roy
Gilbert Arenas
Nate Archibald

Players Who Will Be Forgotten:
Dwight Howard might end up forgotten (didn't make NBA 75 List, so wonder how people view him)
Derrick Rose (Short Peak and might not end up in HOF)

Dwight's a 3x DPOY, he'll be fine. And I wouldn't be surprised to see him added to NBA 100 like Nique was in NBA 75 after not being in NBA 50.

I was always a Robert Parish fan. One of the early 7 footers before Hakeem, Ewing, and Drob who was strong, quick, and athletic and had a good post game and a good mid range game.

Alvan Adams, Walter Davis and Paul Westphal

countryboy667 wrote:A whole list of very good players who get little mention or attention here on RealGM.

Jack Sikma. Dave Bing. Bill Bridges. Bill Bradley. Bob Lanier. Calvin Murphy. Sam Jones. Sidney Moncrief. Nate Thurmond. Nate Archibald. Mel Daniels. Zelmo Beaty. Gus Johnson. David Thompson. Michael Redd. Hal Greer. Louie Dampier. Ron Harper. Clyde Drexler. Gail Goodrich. Billy Cunningham. Jerry Lucas. Dave DeBusschere. Spencer Haywood. Wes Unseld. Jerry Sloan. John Havlicek. Bob Pettit. Grant Hill. Alex English.

Don't know--other than lack of recency and younger posters not ever having seen them--why these guys get so little love on here. They were all really good. Give me my pick of them in their primes on one team today, and , and I'll beat hell out of the Warriors, the Nets, or any other current team you care to mention.

Unseld?? There's an Unseld thread every week! And Mel Daniels? Not on penbeast's watch!

Paul Westphal and Walter Davis . . . efficient high volume scorers with decent ballhandling and playmaking. Rarely get into conversations of best at their position. Think of Westphal as the Bradley Beal of his day, maybe a level better.

Speaking of modern players who will probably not be remembered well, Brad Beal?

Nobody remembers prime Arvydas Sabonis, because nobody saw prime Arvydas Sabonis play.

Ill say Antawn Jamison considering (I believe) he was the first 'stretch 4' in modern NBA and everybody was trying to find a player with his skillset. It was essentially him and Dirk around 2000-2001 who started launching 3s from the PF position and it paved the way for others

penbeast0 wrote:Paul Westphal and Walter Davis . . . efficient high volume scorers with decent ballhandling and playmaking. Rarely get into conversations of best at their position. Think of Westphal as the Bradley Beal of his day, maybe a level better.

Speaking of modern players who will probably not be remembered well, Brad Beal?

What's there to remember about Beal? Money over everything?

A lot of the '70s guys are forgotten because of the perception of that decade as the "dark ages" of the NBA. Charlie Scott, Dave Bing, Larry Kenon, Phil Chenier, Don Buse, Truck Robinson, Randy Smith, etc.

The 2000s are going to be full of these cases too. I mean, guys like Brad Miller, Big Z, Antawn Jamison, and Rashard Lewis made multiple All-Star Games in their heyday and when was the last time anyone talked about them?

Colbinii wrote:

penbeast0 wrote:Paul Westphal and Walter Davis . . . efficient high volume scorers with decent ballhandling and playmaking. Rarely get into conversations of best at their position. Think of Westphal as the Bradley Beal of his day, maybe a level better.

Speaking of modern players who will probably not be remembered well, Brad Beal?

What's there to remember about Beal? Money over everything?

loyalty to wizards (so far) and being a really damn good scorer at his peak

Clifford Ray, John Drew, Bob Kauffman.

I was surprised to see countryboy667 name top 50 greatest players when his ol’ schtick is that we don’t talk about the old players enough.