Roddy B for 3 wrote:I'm hearing alot of national media use Jokic missing his "two best teammates" as a reason to vote him above Embiid who was only missing Simmons.
I think MPJ is very overrated, I think he's a 6'10" shooter who can throw down spectacular dunks occasionall, but not much else. I think MPJ is one of the worst defenders in the league relative to position among high minute players.
I think AG is better than MPJ, and fits like a glove with Jokic. AG is imo a terrific defender who gave Denver. 15/6/3 line on 52% FG.
Although this thread has subtext of an MVP debate, I created this thread to see if RealGM PC board values MPJ or AG more for on court ability.
I like Gordon a great deal and consider him the perfect addition to the Jokic/Murray/Porter core, and you can certainly argue that he's more important for the Nuggets than the 3rd best scorer on the team, but Porter at his best is a legit all-star level player.
I'm about as far as a rah-rah-volume-score guy as you can get, but we don't see guys come into the league and in their first healthy year go through sustained runs of 20+ PPG and 65%+ TS all that often, and it's not like we didn't see evidence of impact. Last year Porter lead the team in +/- and had a higher OnCourt ORtg than any of the other Nuggets have ever has had.
I think it's easy to look at the success of the Nuggets this year and think that the other offensive stars were superfluous, but no, there's reason to think this Nuggets team can be considerably better than it is if Jokic has some serious scorers to pass the ball to.
