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What's your top 10 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 11:56 am
by Gibson22
Make 3 different top 10 for guards/wings/centers

Re: What's your top 5 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:10 pm
by Dutchball97
Centers:
1. Rudy Gobert
2. Bam Adebayo
3. Joel Embiid
4. Jarrett Allen
5. Robert Williams

Wings:
1. Draymond Green
2. Matisse Thybulle
3. Jaren Jackson Jr.
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Paul George

Guards:
1. Jrue Holiday
2. Marcus Smart
3. Alex Caruso
4. Ricky Rubio
5. Chris Paul

Re: What's your top 5 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:57 pm
by Gibson22
Dutchball97 wrote:Centers:
1. Rudy Gobert
2. Bam Adebayo
3. Joel Embiid
4. Jarrett Allen
5. Robert Williams

Wings:
1. Draymond Green
2. Matisse Thybulle
3. Jaren Jackson Jr.
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Paul George

Guards:
1. Jrue Holiday
2. Marcus Smart
3. Alex Caruso
4. Ricky Rubio
5. Chris Paul


Dort is top 3 imho, I actually consider him one of the best defensive guards I've seen, he just doesn't play in a good enough team to be recognized. Regardless, I would never pick injured rubio or 37 yo cp3 in the top 5. I would also put ayton in the top 5, maybe ahead of embiid or allen. JJJ I would probably put him as a big. Oh, and you forgot giannis, he's at least top 3 if we put him as a big and at least top 2 as a wing. And there's also mikal.
Then there are obviously Kawhi and AD who easily deserve top 5 but they've been injured.

Guards:
1)Smart
2)Jrue
3)Dort
4)Mikal
5)Caruso

Wings:
1)Giannis
2) Draymond
3) Thybulle
4) Butler
5) Pg



Bigs:
1)Gobert
2)Adebayo
3)JJJ
4)Robert Williams
5)Ayton
6)Allen
7)Embiid
8)Turner
9)Poeltl
10)Capela

With AD and Leonard being 2 dpoy caliber defenders that I have to leave out because of injuries

Re: What's your top 5 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:58 pm
by Gibson22
Dutchball97 wrote:Centers:
1. Rudy Gobert
2. Bam Adebayo
3. Joel Embiid
4. Jarrett Allen
5. Robert Williams

Wings:
1. Draymond Green
2. Matisse Thybulle
3. Jaren Jackson Jr.
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Paul George

Guards:
1. Jrue Holiday
2. Marcus Smart
3. Alex Caruso
4. Ricky Rubio
5. Chris Paul


I changed it to top 10

Re: What's your top 5 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:05 pm
by Dutchball97
lebron3-14-3 wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:Centers:
1. Rudy Gobert
2. Bam Adebayo
3. Joel Embiid
4. Jarrett Allen
5. Robert Williams

Wings:
1. Draymond Green
2. Matisse Thybulle
3. Jaren Jackson Jr.
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Paul George

Guards:
1. Jrue Holiday
2. Marcus Smart
3. Alex Caruso
4. Ricky Rubio
5. Chris Paul


Dort is top 3 imho, I actually consider him one of the best defensive guards I've seen, he just doesn't play in a good enough team to be recognized. Regardless, I would never pick injured rubio or 37 yo cp3 in the top 5. I would also put ayton in the top 5, maybe ahead of embiid or allen. JJJ I would probably put him as a big. Oh, and you forgot giannis, he's at least top 3 if we put him as a big and at least top 2 as a wing. And there's also mikal.
Then there are obviously Kawhi and AD who easily deserve top 5 but they've been injured.

Guards:
1)Smart
2)Jrue
3)Dort
4)Mikal
5)Caruso

Wings:
1)Giannis
2) Draymond
3) Thybulle
4) Butler
5) Pg



Bigs:
1)Gobert
2)Adebayo
3)JJJ
4)Robert Williams
5)Ayton
6)Allen
7)Embiid
8)Turner
9)Poeltl
10)Capela

With AD and Leonard being 2 dpoy caliber defenders that I have to leave out because of injuries


Mikal is good but I'm not so sold on the hype that I think he's a top 5 wing defender. I did forget Giannis, I'd put him behind Draymond though. I think we see the difficulty with the 3 positional classifications though as it can be unclear whether a SG is more guard or more wing, while PFs especially are often hard to classify as wing or center/big. Bridges is definitely not a guard though, how could he be when he plays next to CP3 and Booker?

Re: What's your top 5 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:08 pm
by Colbinii
Centers
Rudy Gobert
Bam Adebayo
Robert Williams
Jarrett Allen
Jakob Poeltl

Wings and Draymond
Draymond Green
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jimmy Butler
Mikal Bridges
Jayson Tatum

Guards
Jrue Holiday
Marcus Smart
Alex Caruso
Matisse Thybulle
Patrick Beverley

Re: What's your top 5 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:33 pm
by Gibson22
Dutchball97 wrote:
lebron3-14-3 wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:Centers:
1. Rudy Gobert
2. Bam Adebayo
3. Joel Embiid
4. Jarrett Allen
5. Robert Williams

Wings:
1. Draymond Green
2. Matisse Thybulle
3. Jaren Jackson Jr.
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Paul George

Guards:
1. Jrue Holiday
2. Marcus Smart
3. Alex Caruso
4. Ricky Rubio
5. Chris Paul


Dort is top 3 imho, I actually consider him one of the best defensive guards I've seen, he just doesn't play in a good enough team to be recognized. Regardless, I would never pick injured rubio or 37 yo cp3 in the top 5. I would also put ayton in the top 5, maybe ahead of embiid or allen. JJJ I would probably put him as a big. Oh, and you forgot giannis, he's at least top 3 if we put him as a big and at least top 2 as a wing. And there's also mikal.
Then there are obviously Kawhi and AD who easily deserve top 5 but they've been injured.

Guards:
1)Smart
2)Jrue
3)Dort
4)Mikal
5)Caruso

Wings:
1)Giannis
2) Draymond
3) Thybulle
4) Butler
5) Pg



Bigs:
1)Gobert
2)Adebayo
3)JJJ
4)Robert Williams
5)Ayton
6)Allen
7)Embiid
8)Turner
9)Poeltl
10)Capela

With AD and Leonard being 2 dpoy caliber defenders that I have to leave out because of injuries


Mikal is good but I'm not so sold on the hype that I think he's a top 5 wing defender. I did forget Giannis, I'd put him behind Draymond though. I think we see the difficulty with the 3 positional classifications though as it can be unclear whether a SG is more guard or more wing, while PFs especially are often hard to classify as wing or center/big. Bridges is definitely not a guard though, how could he be when he plays next to CP3 and Booker?


Yeah you're right about bridges being a wing

Re: What's your top 10 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:08 pm
by feyki
Guards:
Caruso
Smart
Jrue
Lonzo
Bane
Beverley
Quickley
Matthews
Conley
Rubio,

Forwards:
Draymond
Yannis
Jaren
Horford
AD
Thybulle
PJ
Jaden
Nassır
Kleber,

Centers;
Gober
Robert Williams
Jarrett Allen
Adebayo
Mitchell Robinson
Nic Claxton
Landale
Boucher
Mobley
Embiid
.

Re: What's your top 10 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 9:21 pm
by parsnips33
Bigs:
Draymond
Gobert
Bam
Giannis
Embiid

Wings:
Bridges
Butler
Tatum
Finney Smith
Kawhi (benefit of the doubt)

Guards:
Smart
Holiday
Caruso
GPII
Lonzo

Re: What's your top 10 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:52 pm
by Gibson22
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Re: What's your top 10 defensive guards, wings and centers in the league?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:29 pm
by pipfan
When Ball/Caruso were on the floor earlier in the year, they were dominant on D. If they stay healthy, they will lead the Bulls next year to a top 3 seeding