How far is Curry from overtaking KG on your all time list?

[mdonnelly1989]

How far is Curry from overtaking KG on your all time list?

[HeartBreakKid]

Not far at all.

Why, what happened this year that would require a list change?

[mdonnelly1989]

Not far at all.

Why, what happened this year that would require a list change?

You think he will surpass him if he wins this years finals and plays fairly about his 45% from FG, 40% 3P on solid efficiency... ?

JW, because if that were the case Curry would be pushing for a top 10 player of all time. Wonder what he would have to do to crack that...

[falcolombardi]

dunno tbh, both are in my short list for top 10 contenders

[HeartBreakKid]

Not far at all.

Why, what happened this year that would require a list change?

You think he will surpass him if he wins this years finals and plays fairly about his 45% from FG, 40% 3P on solid efficiency... ?

JW, because if that were the case Curry would be pushing for a top 10 player of all time. Wonder what he would have to do to crack that...

Probably not for me. Depends how well he plays and the quality of his opponents.

[eminence]

Not all that close, I've got KG in the 4-6 range though, so obviously not the norm there.

[mikejames23]

Curry strikes to me as the better player, but I'd rather see how he finishes his career before ranking him ahead of KG.

[dygaction]

After 2016 Curry only needed reasonable longevity for me. Right now I have Curry 11 and KG 19.

[70sFan]

That's Curry's 9 relevant season in all-time sense. I can see him overcoming Garnett with another two MVP-level seasons, but it's not a given he will reach that mark.

[Stalwart]

He's already passed KG. I'm not sure how this is a debate.

[Dutchball97]

They're in the same tier for me as players who have a top 10 case but come up just short. KG lacks play-off success. Of course there is good reason to believe that wouldn't be the case if he had even a slightly better team in his prime but the times he did get to the post-season I wouldn't say he was consistently playing like first Cavs stint LeBron or 80s MJ either. Those guys made it pretty obvious they'd win rings if they even had an average team around them. KG was solid and definitely not some underperformer but I'm not confident that he'd 100% have shown to have the same play-off ceiling as the likes of Duncan and Hakeem, who he often gets compared to.

Then Curry has pretty lacking longevity. He's going to need 3 more healthy seasons to even catch Magic and Bird in terms of regular season minutes played. Considering he hasn't played over 70 games in a season since 2016/2017 I kind of doubt even 3 seasons would be enough. Then you look at Curry not being the most consistent player and his top 10 case is going to be a tough one. With the way Curry's career is going I expect him to be kind of similar to Bird in terms of career when all is said and done but even Bird is kept out of the top 10 more often now by people who value longevity and I don't see many people claiming Curry is a straight up better player than Bird either.

Conclusion: It is going to depend on what you value. The longevity crowd will take KG, the post-season accomplishment people will go for Curry and I doubt either of those things are going to change.

[migya]

Situation is so different with these two players. Garnett had a bit longer prime and was probably very slightly more effective during that time. Curry needs three more seasons at his current level.

[ardee]

Then Curry has pretty lacking longevity. He's going to need 3 more healthy seasons to even catch Magic and Bird in terms of regular season minutes played. Considering he hasn't played over 70 games in a season since 2016/2017 I kind of doubt even 3 seasons would be enough. Then you look at Curry not being the most consistent player and his top 10 case is going to be a tough one. With the way Curry's career is going I expect him to be kind of similar to Bird in terms of career when all is said and done but even Bird is kept out of the top 10 more often now by people who value longevity and I don't see many people claiming Curry is a straight up better player than Bird either.

Conclusion: It is going to depend on what you value. The longevity crowd will take KG, the post-season accomplishment people will go for Curry and I doubt either of those things are going to change.

I have:

11. Hakeem
12. Dirk
13. Oscar
14. West
15. KG
16. Curry

I think Curry can get past Oscar, West and KG with a couple more seasons like this but then what you're talking about with his injuries and inconsistencies will come into play. West had those issues of his own, and I see Oscar as the guard version of KG in a lot of ways. But Dirk is a different animal. Complete iron man who was arguably a top 5 player for a decade straight and always brought it in the Playoffs (outside of 1 year).

Even though Curry may have peaked higher, that will present an issue and I could see him capped at 13 for me unless his own longevity ends up drastically longer.

[Stalwart]

The things that are going hurt Curry's all time case are longevity, durability, and at least the perception that he struggles in big games and moments. However, Curry does claim several unique, historical accomplishments that are really hard to ignore.

Curry not only owns the greatest regular season record(73-9) he also owns the greatest playoff record(16-1). Think about that for a second. That's huge.

He holds the title of "greatest shooter ever". Think about that for a second. I know that's not a scientific determination but the fact he has been good enough to be considered such is once again huge. Shooting is probably the most fundemental and essential part of the game and he is considered the best at it.

Although he didn't do it by himself he was still the single biggest factor in the 3 point evolution of the game/league. In that respect he's been arguably more influential to the sport than anyone but Michael Jordan. Once again, that's huge.

5 Straight NBA Finals. As much praise as Lebron gets for going to 8 straight, and deservedly so, Curry went to 5 straight and he did it out West. That's an historical achievement in its own right.

Then when you consider less historical yet high value achievements like winning back to back MVPs including the first unanimous, back to back Titles including 3 overall, a couple of scoring titles, leading the league steals, 3pt record, 50/40/90 club. It's really tough to put longevity alone over all this.

I will say if Steph manages to win another title, plus FMVP, this year it should be enough to tip the scales for even the most ardent supporters of longevity. Should.

[Texas Chuck]

I still have KG with a pretty healthy lead. But I use a cumulative value approach rather than a peak-based one. Curry could still catch him though obviously as he is still playing at a very high level adding plenty of value to his tally. But KG is well ahead for me. I'd have KG firmly in my top 15 and Curry outside my top 20.

[penbeast0]

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Although he didn't do it by himself he was still the single biggest factor in the 3 point evolution of the game/league. In that respect he's been arguably more influential to the sport than anyone but Michael Jordan. Once again, that's huge....

I can't see how anyone could say either Jordan or Curry had more influence than Mikan (established the post player dominant style that has been the norm through the first 50 years of the league's history), Russell (established the rim protector drop defender style that has been the primary defensive style even longer than that). Jordan wasn't the first skywalker (Baylor, Erving, etc.) and in terms of on court influence, he wasn't close to this level but he established the international branding of a player type of marketing impact that has dominated the league ever since so off the court his influence may be the greatest.

Curry is the poster boy for the modern 3 point spamming revolution but that's really been a thing for less than a decade and it's far from certain that it will continue for another decade before the next stylistic revolution. He's important to the modern game but in terms of evolutionary impact, he's not top 3. He could be 4th or maybe in the lower half of the top 10 depending on how you weight his influence v. those of other players and coaches to the current league norm.

[ty 4191]

Curry not only owns the greatest regular season record(73-9) he also owns the greatest playoff record(16-1). Think about that for a second. That's huge.

I must be missing something. Curry's teams are 18-4 in playoff series. Or are you referring to something else?

Either way, 18-4 (Curry) is not as impressive as 27-2 (Bill Russell). 16-1 would not be as impressive as 27-2 either.

[tsherkin]

Curry not only owns the greatest regular season record(73-9) he also owns the greatest playoff record(16-1). Think about that for a second. That's huge.

I must be missing something. Curry's teams are 18-4 in playoff series. Or are you referring to something else?

Either way, 18-4 (Curry) is not as impressive as 27-2 (Bill Russell). 16-1 would not be as impressive as 27-2 either.

Think he means single-postseason W/L record, from the 16-17 season when they went 16-1, losing only a single game to the Cavs in the Finals and sweeping their way through the West before that.

[Colbinii]

Relatively Close.Probably have KG between 6-9 and Curry between 14-20.

[ceiling raiser]

Curry overtook KG last year for me.

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James
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