1992 MJ vs 2000 Shaq. Who playoff run was better?
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:18 pm
Who had the better playoff run?
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70sFan wrote:Shaq, as Jordan's performance against Knicks was relatively weak. O'Neal had no such a series.
FuShengTHEGreat wrote:70sFan wrote:Shaq, as Jordan's performance against Knicks was relatively weak. O'Neal had no such a series.
Shaq had very at best lukewarm performances (by his individual standards) towards the end of the Portland series imho. Rasheed was more unstoppable for much of that game 7 than he was. Otoh in the 92 game 7 vs NY facing elimination at home Jordan was red hot with 42 as they blew out the Knicks.
Obviously Shaq > Kobe that regular season and playoffs but had Kobe not had that all around brilliant game 7 then that would've been amongst the most talked about collapses in NBA playoff history and the blame would've chiefly fell on Shaq's shoulders and altered his legacy.
70sFan wrote:I think looking at the whole series gives us clearer picture than nitpicking one game
70sFan wrote:FuShengTHEGreat wrote:70sFan wrote:Shaq, as Jordan's performance against Knicks was relatively weak. O'Neal had no such a series.
Shaq had very at best lukewarm performances (by his individual standards) towards the end of the Portland series imho. Rasheed was more unstoppable for much of that game 7 than he was. Otoh in the 92 game 7 vs NY facing elimination at home Jordan was red hot with 42 as they blew out the Knicks.
Obviously Shaq > Kobe that regular season and playoffs but had Kobe not had that all around brilliant game 7 then that would've been amongst the most talked about collapses in NBA playoff history and the blame would've chiefly fell on Shaq's shoulders and altered his legacy.
I think looking at the whole series gives us clearer picture than nitpicking one game
FuShengTHEGreat wrote:70sFan wrote:FuShengTHEGreat wrote:
Shaq had very at best lukewarm performances (by his individual standards) towards the end of the Portland series imho. Rasheed was more unstoppable for much of that game 7 than he was. Otoh in the 92 game 7 vs NY facing elimination at home Jordan was red hot with 42 as they blew out the Knicks.
Obviously Shaq > Kobe that regular season and playoffs but had Kobe not had that all around brilliant game 7 then that would've been amongst the most talked about collapses in NBA playoff history and the blame would've chiefly fell on Shaq's shoulders and altered his legacy.
I think looking at the whole series gives us clearer picture than nitpicking one game
Which is why I mentioned "towards the end of the series". Shaq did not have a good game 6 on the road in Portland in addition to game 7 as the Lakers struggled to finish off the Blazers despite being up 3-2 headed into that game.
He was poor from both the field 7/17 and at the line even worse 3/10.
PistolPeteJR wrote:FuShengTHEGreat wrote:70sFan wrote:I think looking at the whole series gives us clearer picture than nitpicking one game
Which is why I mentioned "towards the end of the series". Shaq did not have a good game 6 on the road in Portland in addition to game 7 as the Lakers struggled to finish off the Blazers despite being up 3-2 headed into that game.
He was poor from both the field 7/17 and at the line even worse 3/10.
What they’re saying is we can all nitpick games, but ‘92 Jordan had duds too; all in all, Shaq had the more dominant and impressive PS.
FuShengTHEGreat wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:FuShengTHEGreat wrote:
Which is why I mentioned "towards the end of the series". Shaq did not have a good game 6 on the road in Portland in addition to game 7 as the Lakers struggled to finish off the Blazers despite being up 3-2 headed into that game.
He was poor from both the field 7/17 and at the line even worse 3/10.
What they’re saying is we can all nitpick games, but ‘92 Jordan had duds too; all in all, Shaq had the more dominant and impressive PS.
Duds like where exactly? Did Jordan have trouble closing out a playoff series in 92 like Shaq did?
Jordan had the 2nd highest scoring average for a playoff series in NBA history vs Miami..... only slightly behind Jerry West vs Baltimore in 65.
In the Finals he thoroughly roasted prime Clyde Drexler.
Shaq had a monster Finals albeit vs injury riddled Rik Smits and 39 year old Sam Perkins. Jordan showed in the 92 Finals he could elevate his level of play and impose his will in a winning manner vs a HOF perimeter great on top of his game that could rival him skillwise....unlike any version of Shaq vs guys that could score and rebound just as good as he could.
FuShengTHEGreat wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:FuShengTHEGreat wrote:
Which is why I mentioned "towards the end of the series". Shaq did not have a good game 6 on the road in Portland in addition to game 7 as the Lakers struggled to finish off the Blazers despite being up 3-2 headed into that game.
He was poor from both the field 7/17 and at the line even worse 3/10.
What they’re saying is we can all nitpick games, but ‘92 Jordan had duds too; all in all, Shaq had the more dominant and impressive PS.
Duds like where exactly? Did Jordan have trouble closing out a playoff series in 92 like Shaq did?
Jordan had the 2nd highest scoring average for a playoff series in NBA history vs Miami..... only slightly behind Jerry West vs Baltimore in 65.
In the Finals he thoroughly roasted prime Clyde Drexler.
Shaq had a monster Finals albeit vs injury riddled Rik Smits and 39 year old Sam Perkins. Jordan showed in the 92 Finals he could elevate his level of play and impose his will in a winning manner vs a HOF perimeter great on top of his game that could rival him skillwise....unlike any version of Shaq vs guys that could score and rebound just as good as he could.
Homer38 wrote:FuShengTHEGreat wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:
What they’re saying is we can all nitpick games, but ‘92 Jordan had duds too; all in all, Shaq had the more dominant and impressive PS.
Duds like where exactly? Did Jordan have trouble closing out a playoff series in 92 like Shaq did?
Jordan had the 2nd highest scoring average for a playoff series in NBA history vs Miami..... only slightly behind Jerry West vs Baltimore in 65.
In the Finals he thoroughly roasted prime Clyde Drexler.
Shaq had a monster Finals albeit vs injury riddled Rik Smits and 39 year old Sam Perkins. Jordan showed in the 92 Finals he could elevate his level of play and impose his will in a winning manner vs a HOF perimeter great on top of his game that could rival him skillwise....unlike any version of Shaq vs guys that could score and rebound just as good as he could.
Shaq was also the only one on the lakers who had show up in game 5.And the coverage that Shaq had at the end of this series was also crazy,even when he had not the ball.The reason why he had only 9 FGA in game 7
FuShengTHEGreat wrote:Homer38 wrote:FuShengTHEGreat wrote:
Duds like where exactly? Did Jordan have trouble closing out a playoff series in 92 like Shaq did?
Jordan had the 2nd highest scoring average for a playoff series in NBA history vs Miami..... only slightly behind Jerry West vs Baltimore in 65.
In the Finals he thoroughly roasted prime Clyde Drexler.
Shaq had a monster Finals albeit vs injury riddled Rik Smits and 39 year old Sam Perkins. Jordan showed in the 92 Finals he could elevate his level of play and impose his will in a winning manner vs a HOF perimeter great on top of his game that could rival him skillwise....unlike any version of Shaq vs guys that could score and rebound just as good as he could.
Shaq was also the only one on the lakers who had show up in game 5.And the coverage that Shaq had at the end of this series was also crazy,even when he had not the ball.The reason why he had only 9 FGA in game 7
The 92 Knicks were a more physical and better defensive team than the '00 Blazers were imho. So that "coverage" argument offset here.
Kobe tallied more rebounds blocks (2 facets of the game you'd expect a Center to dominate over a 6'6" SG when his offense was slowed) assists and steals than Shaq in that critical game 7 at home in addition to outscoring him.
70sFan wrote:FuShengTHEGreat wrote:PistolPeteJR wrote:
What they’re saying is we can all nitpick games, but ‘92 Jordan had duds too; all in all, Shaq had the more dominant and impressive PS.
Duds like where exactly? Did Jordan have trouble closing out a playoff series in 92 like Shaq did?
Jordan had the 2nd highest scoring average for a playoff series in NBA history vs Miami..... only slightly behind Jerry West vs Baltimore in 65.
In the Finals he thoroughly roasted prime Clyde Drexler.
Shaq had a monster Finals albeit vs injury riddled Rik Smits and 39 year old Sam Perkins. Jordan showed in the 92 Finals he could elevate his level of play and impose his will in a winning manner vs a HOF perimeter great on top of his game that could rival him skillwise....unlike any version of Shaq vs guys that could score and rebound just as good as he could.
Game 6 vs Knicks
Game 6 vs Cavs