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Steph Curry
Anthony Davis
Nikola Jokic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Luka Doncic
Joel Embiid

Steph - Giannis
Jokic - Doncic
Davis
Embiid

Steph Curry - definitely top 20, possibly top 15
Anthony Davis - probably top 30-35
Nikola Jokic - top 20, possibly top 15
Giannis Antetokounmpo - top 20
Luka Doncic - top 40?

We really need to run a new peaks project...
Joel Embiid

ardee wrote:Steph Curry
Anthony Davis
Nikola Jokic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Luka Doncic
Joel Embiid

Curry - 16 or 17. 2016 is the best RS here, 2017 he was ballistic in the playoffs. Top 10 for me probably

It depends on how you value things, but I do think it’s in the discussion for GOAT offensive peak. The only real thing you can say is he might not be as able to absolutely dominate or run a game when no one can score and you need scoring quite like a lebron or Jordan can, but it’s not as if he’s not among the best scorers ever either.


Giannis 21 - RS not as good as Jokic, but he had one of the best playoff runs of all time and one of the greatest finals ever, so I could see this above currys depending on how high you are in his defense. Depending on your criteria there’s a range, for me I guess 10-15, maybe a tad bit higher

in terms of level of play it’s probably top 5-10 to be honest, and not on the edge of that, but obv questions with resiliency and I do think certain defenses he didn’t go against could defend him better than curry. I’ve talked about his defense before, but essentially if you believe his defense = RS 2019 or 2020 defense which I think is fair in the playoffs, you have like a playoff run that stands in the same realm as the Duncan’s/hakeems of the world

Jokic 22 - playoff defense questions, got bounced early but he was great offensively, from a absolutely skill based perspective you could argue Jokic over giannis, so probably top 20 for me

AD 2020 - mostly for the bubble, weakest RS here, and not the best #1 option although I think he would benifit a lot from good coaching. Top 25-30 probably maybe a tad bit better
Doncic - top 35, postseason be crazy so I could see an argument to be higher though
Embiid - got hurt so it’s hard to rank him, talent wise he’s in this tier though

I have bubble AD above jokic and below giannis but at this point it’s pretty clear he was just on fire from the midrange

2018 AD is his best RS, don’t know if I’d put it above peak Luka esp with his postseason exploits though, 2020 AD is great but his RS wasn’t crazy, but bubble AD probably puts him a biiit over the top for me

Embiid got hurt so unlucky, but I don’t think he’s miles apart the others or anything if healthy at all

Steph curry (≈10)
Giannis Antetokoumnpo (≈20)
Nikola Jokic (≈25)
Anthony Davis (≈30)
Embiid (≈40)
Luka (≈45)

ceoofkobefans wrote:Steph curry (≈ 15)
Giannis Antetokoumnpo (≈ 35)
Anthony Davis (≈ 40)
Jokic (≈ 75)
Embiid (≈ 100)
Luka (≈ 125?)

Bruh this is heinous lol

Steph Curry - Top 20
Anthony Davis- Top 30-35
Nikola Jokic- Top 15
Giannis Antetokounmpo- Top 20
Luka Doncic- Idk, top 30 I guess?
Joel Embiid- Top 30-35

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:Steph curry (≈ 15)
Giannis Antetokoumnpo (≈ 35)
Anthony Davis (≈ 40)
Jokic (≈ 75)
Embiid (≈ 100)
Luka (≈ 125?)

Bruh this is heinous lol

I misread it as all time

70sFan wrote:Steph Curry - definitely top 20, possibly top 15
Anthony Davis - probably top 30-35
Nikola Jokic - top 20, possibly top 15
Giannis Antetokounmpo - top 20
Luka Doncic - top 40?

We really need to run a new peaks project...
Joel Embiid

Tbf itd be nice to run a new peaks project when the main guys other than giannis get a bit better or get a deeper run, embiid/Jokic both haven’t had a deep dominant run yet (not hating, obv its circumstance) and Luka is still a bit young

Also AD if we get Ham or Stotts might be interesting, in his Rs, although I don’t know their rep with post guys stotts was good for p and r I think, although who knows if it’s the same with the main threat being the screener and if they keep nunn

ceoofkobefans wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:Steph curry (≈ 15)
Giannis Antetokoumnpo (≈ 35)
Anthony Davis (≈ 40)
Jokic (≈ 75)
Embiid (≈ 100)
Luka (≈ 125?)

Bruh this is heinous lol

I misread it as all time

You didn’t misread it

This is still heinous lol

There is no possible criteria that could have giannis at 35 and Jokic at 75 lol

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Bruh this is heinous lol

I misread it as all time

You didn’t misread it

This is still heinous lol

There is no possible criteria that could have giannis at 35 and Jokic at 75 lol

I think you already know the criteria that causes some people to have such a big gap between Giannis and Jokic. Rings, Erneh.

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:Steph curry (≈ 15)
Giannis Antetokoumnpo (≈ 35)
Anthony Davis (≈ 40)
Jokic (≈ 75)
Embiid (≈ 100)
Luka (≈ 125?)

Bruh this is heinous lol

it reads as a career ranking actually

maybe he misunderstood the question

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
Bruh this is heinous lol

I misread it as all time

You didn’t misread it

This is still heinous lol

There is no possible criteria that could have giannis at 35 and Jokic at 75 lol

Bro trying to tell me what I am thinking

ceoofkobefans wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:

I misread it as all time

You didn’t misread it

This is still heinous lol

There is no possible criteria that could have giannis at 35 and Jokic at 75 lol

Bro trying to tell me what I am thinking

If you’re ranking their careers then you misread it, but you said you misread it as all time, as in where do u rank their peaks all time

If it’s career rankings, it makes more sense, if it’s peaks, it’s heinous

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
You didn’t misread it

This is still heinous lol

There is no possible criteria that could have giannis at 35 and Jokic at 75 lol

Bro trying to tell me what I am thinking

If you’re ranking their careers then you misread it, but you said you misread it as all time, as in where do u rank their peaks all time

If it’s career rankings, it makes more sense, if it’s peaks, it’s heinous

All time means where they rank all time not where their peak ranks what are you going on about

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

70sFan wrote:Steph Curry - definitely top 20, possibly top 15
Anthony Davis - probably top 30-35
Nikola Jokic - top 20, possibly top 15
Giannis Antetokounmpo - top 20
Luka Doncic - top 40?

We really need to run a new peaks project...
Joel Embiid

Tbf itd be nice to run a new peaks project when the main guys other than giannis get a bit better or get a deeper run, embiid/Jokic both haven’t had a deep dominant run yet (not hating, obv its circumstance) and Luka is still a bit young

Also AD if we get Ham or Stotts might be interesting, in his Rs, although I don’t know their rep with post guys stotts was good for p and r I think, although who knows if it’s the same with the main threat being the screener and if they keep nunn

You can't wait for younger players getting bigger sample, because there can always pop out another ATG player in near future and you'd like to wait for a bigger sample for him as well. It is what it is and to be honest, I don't find any of the contemporary players too unproven. Jokic already showed what he's capable of and Embiid showed plenty of limitations in the last few years.

Steph Curry 8-15
Anthony Davis 25-35
Nikola Jokic 12-20
Giannis Antetokounmpo 20-25
Luka Doncic 35-50
Joel Embiid 45-75

70sFan wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

70sFan wrote:Steph Curry - definitely top 20, possibly top 15
Anthony Davis - probably top 30-35
Nikola Jokic - top 20, possibly top 15
Giannis Antetokounmpo - top 20
Luka Doncic - top 40?

We really need to run a new peaks project...
Joel Embiid

Tbf itd be nice to run a new peaks project when the main guys other than giannis get a bit better or get a deeper run, embiid/Jokic both haven’t had a deep dominant run yet (not hating, obv its circumstance) and Luka is still a bit young

Also AD if we get Ham or Stotts might be interesting, in his Rs, although I don’t know their rep with post guys stotts was good for p and r I think, although who knows if it’s the same with the main threat being the screener and if they keep nunn

You can't wait for younger players getting bigger sample, because there can always pop out another ATG player in near future and you'd like to wait for a bigger sample for him as well. It is what it is and to be honest, I don't find any of the contemporary players too unproven. Jokic already showed what he's capable of and Embiid showed plenty of limitations in the last few years.

I’m not calling them unproven, more so like, ig if Jokic got a atg playoff run he’d prolly be a top tier peak candidate

ceoofkobefans wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:

Bro trying to tell me what I am thinking

If you’re ranking their careers then you misread it, but you said you misread it as all time, as in where do u rank their peaks all time

If it’s career rankings, it makes more sense, if it’s peaks, it’s heinous

All time means where they rank all time not where their peak ranks what are you going on about

The topic is rank their peaks all time

What are you talking about lol

MyUniBroDavis wrote:

ceoofkobefans wrote:

MyUniBroDavis wrote:
If you’re ranking their careers then you misread it, but you said you misread it as all time, as in where do u rank their peaks all time

If it’s career rankings, it makes more sense, if it’s peaks, it’s heinous

All time means where they rank all time not where their peak ranks what are you going on about

The topic is rank their peaks all time

What are you talking about lol

He thought it was for alltime ranking. Can you chill out? The guy clearly explained he thought it was career alltime ranking and he explained that.