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For a good team: A Magic level scorer or a Manu level Playmaker?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 6:41 pm
by 1993Playoffs
For a good team which one would you say is more impactful?

Someone that scores as well as Magic Johnson with his efficiency and volume?

Or someone that pplaymakes and passes as well as Manu Ginobili?

Re: More impactful: Magic Johnson’s Scoring abilities or Manu’ playmaking ?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 6:43 pm
by tsherkin
1993Playoffs wrote:For a good team which one would you say is more impactful?

Someone that scores as well as Magic Johnson with his efficiency and volume?

Or someone that pplaymakes and passes as well as Manu Ginobili?


Magic's scoring from which season? There's a notable range in his volume.

Also beyond that, hard to consider this question in isolation because of the relationship between scoring and passing, and how one influences the other. And also, are we considering Magic's STYLE of scoring, as well?

Re: More impactful: Magic Johnson’s Scoring abilities or Manu’ playmaking ?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 7:37 pm
by 70sFan
I dont think it's possible to answer that question.

Re: More impactful: Magic Johnson’s Scoring abilities or Manu’ playmaking ?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:08 pm
by GSP
Magic was as efficient near the paint as any non big in history besides Bron

that has far more value than Manus flashy passing

Re: More impactful: Magic Johnson’s Scoring abilities or Manu’ playmaking ?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:24 pm
by 1993Playoffs
tsherkin wrote:
1993Playoffs wrote:For a good team which one would you say is more impactful?

Someone that scores as well as Magic Johnson with his efficiency and volume?

Or someone that pplaymakes and passes as well as Manu Ginobili?


Magic's scoring from which season? There's a notable range in his volume.

Also beyond that, hard to consider this question in isolation because of the relationship between scoring and passing, and how one influences the other. And also, are we considering Magic's STYLE of scoring, as well?


Yeah I changed the title , it is a interesting thought though about which skillet is more impactful in terms of ceiling raising

Re: More impactful: Magic Johnson’s Scoring abilities or Manu’ playmaking ?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:25 pm
by 1993Playoffs
GSP wrote:Magic was as efficient near the paint as any non big in history besides Bron

that has far more value than Manus flashy passing


Though I wouldn’t put him on Magics level. Manu was an excellent playmaker

Re: More impactful: Magic Johnson’s Scoring abilities or Manu’ playmaking ?

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:34 pm
by GSP
1993Playoffs wrote:
GSP wrote:Magic was as efficient near the paint as any non big in history besides Bron

that has far more value than Manus flashy passing


Though I wouldn’t put him on Magics level. Manu was an excellent playmaker


He was but i think he was a better passer than he was a playmaker

Re: For a good team: A Magic level scorer or a Manu level Playmaker?

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 12:54 am
by No-more-rings
Manu’s playmaking is really good but can be a bit wild at times. I don’t see what difference it makes if it’s on a good or bad team. Magic’s scoring probably gets slept on a bit, so I guess if you tell each one to focus on each of those i’d take Magic’s scoring. Manu’s passing great, but he doesn’t have point guard handles or vision.

Re: For a good team: A Magic level scorer or a Manu level Playmaker?

Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 1:12 am
by LAL1947
It really depends on the characteristics of others on the team. Like if Manu Ginobili joined the NBA in 1987-88 and landed on the Utah Jazz roster where he stays until the end of his career, how many titles does he help Stockton and Malone win?