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What would the modern scoring equivalent of the '69 Celtics be, specifically for Bill Russel?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:37 pm
by WestGOAT
I've been collecting playoff scoring stats and I did not realise how poor Russel's number offensive numbers looked for this run.

Made me wonder if Playoffs 2022 Draymond Green on even lower volume would be a fair comparison?

What about the rest of his teammates? Any suggestions?

Nelson = RS 2016 Kevin Durant playing very limited minutes (I'm not kidding his relative PP100 and TS% are insane)
Havlicek = RS 2012 Paul Pierce
Howell = RS 1993 Detlef Schrempf
Jones = RS 2019 CJ McCollum
Siegfried = RS 2005 Mike Bibby
Bryant = RS 2006 Gary Payton

Playoff scoring stats:

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   Year           Player Pos  Age   Tm   G   MPG  PP100   TS%  TSA100    TSA
0  1969      Don Nelson*  SF   28  BOS  18  19.3   27.7  57.6    24.0  194.4
1  1969   John Havlicek*  SG   28  BOS  18  47.2   23.2  51.7    22.4  442.7
2  1969   Bailey Howell*  PF   32  BOS  18  30.6   21.1  52.5    20.1  257.2
3  1969       Sam Jones*  SG   35  BOS  18  28.6   25.4  46.4    27.3  326.4
4  1969  Larry Siegfried  PG   29  BOS  18  21.8   21.8  49.1    22.2  202.8
5  1969        Em Bryant  PG   30  BOS  18  33.7   14.0  45.8    15.3  216.3
6  1969    Bill Russell*   C   34  BOS  18  46.1   10.1  44.8    11.3  217.6


While they were great on defence in the playoffs (-5 rDTrg), they turned out to be still pretty good on offence (+2 rORtg).

Re: What would the modern scoring equivalent of the '69 Celtics be, specifically for Bill Russel?

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:14 am
by Dr Positivity
Draymond is pretty close for Russell (they're both around 6th/7th in scoring and efficiency), 2016 Duncan is an option as well

I think the teams with Howell were probably some of their best offensive supporting casts.

Re: What would the modern scoring equivalent of the '69 Celtics be, specifically for Bill Russel?

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:41 am
by penbeast0
Howell, Nelson, and Sam Jones were probably the most efficient scorers Russell played with, though I haven't calculated Sharman and Ramsey from the 50s. Sam was down from his peak years, Howell was still playing extremely well. What numbers are you using for your comps as I don't remember Siegfried being anywhere close to Bibby as either an efficiency or volume scorer?