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I’m order from 1-10 what would you say are the top 10 seasons between Shaq and Wilt?

Top Shaq seasons:

2000
2001
2002
1998
1999
2003
1995
1994

Wilt's best seasons:

1967
1964
1968
1962
1965
1966
1963
1960

My order:

1. 1967 Wilt Chamberlain
2. 1964 Wilt Chamberlain
3. 2000 Shaquille O'Neal
4. 2001 Shaquille O'Neal
5. 1968 Wilt Chamberlain
6. 2002 Shaquille O'Neal
7. 1962 Wilt Chamberlain
8. 1965 Wilt Chamberlain
9. 1998 Shaquille O'Neal
10. 1966 Wilt Chamblerain
11. 1999 Shaquille O'Neal
12. 2003 Shaquille O'Neal

1. 01 O'Neal
2. 00 O'Neal
3. 02 O'Neal
4. 64 Chamberlain
5. 67 Chamberlain
6. 03 O'Neal
7. 62 Chamberlain
8. 95 O'Neal
9. 98 O'Neal
10. 66 Chamberlain

I have Wilt a spot higher on my all-time list, though.

One of the unfinished matchups in Odinn21’s project: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2120549

23. Tim Duncan vs. Larry Bird
24. Bill Russell vs. Shaquille O'Neal
25. Magic Johnson vs. Hakeem Olajuwon

26. LeBron James vs. Larry Bird
27. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar vs. Magic Johnson
28. Michael Jordan vs. Shaquille O'Neal
29. Bill Russell vs. Tim Duncan
30. Wilt Chamberlain vs. Hakeem Olajuwon

31. Wilt Chamberlain vs. Shaquille O'Neal
32. LeBron James vs. Hakeem Olajuwon
33. Bill Russell vs. Larry Bird
34. Michael Jordan vs. Magic Johnson
35. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar vs. Tim Duncan

36. Wilt Chamberlain vs. Larry Bird
37. Tim Duncan vs. Shaquille O'Neal
38. Bill Russell vs. Hakeem Olajuwon
39. LeBron James vs. Magic Johnson
40. Michael Jordan vs. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

41. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar vs. Larry Bird
42. LeBron James vs. Shaquille O'Neal
43. Wilt Chamberlain vs. Magic Johnson
44. Tim Duncan vs. Hakeem Olajuwon
45. Michael Jordan vs. Bill Russell

70sFan wrote:Top Shaq seasons:

2000
2001
2002
1998
1999
2003
1995
1994

Wilt's best seasons:

1967
1964
1968
1962
1965
1966
1963
1960

My order:

1. 1967 Wilt Chamberlain
2. 1964 Wilt Chamberlain
3. 2000 Shaquille O'Neal
4. 2001 Shaquille O'Neal
5. 1968 Wilt Chamberlain
6. 2002 Shaquille O'Neal
7. 1962 Wilt Chamberlain
8. 1965 Wilt Chamberlain
9. 1998 Shaquille O'Neal
10. 1966 Wilt Chamblerain
11. 1999 Shaquille O'Neal
12. 2003 Shaquille O'Neal

I still don't get the Wilt 1967 season he was like 5th in scoring on his own team in the finals and it was his best attribute.

JordansBulls wrote:

70sFan wrote:Top Shaq seasons:

2000
2001
2002
1998
1999
2003
1995
1994

Wilt's best seasons:

1967
1964
1968
1962
1965
1966
1963
1960

My order:

1. 1967 Wilt Chamberlain
2. 1964 Wilt Chamberlain
3. 2000 Shaquille O'Neal
4. 2001 Shaquille O'Neal
5. 1968 Wilt Chamberlain
6. 2002 Shaquille O'Neal
7. 1962 Wilt Chamberlain
8. 1965 Wilt Chamberlain
9. 1998 Shaquille O'Neal
10. 1966 Wilt Chamblerain
11. 1999 Shaquille O'Neal
12. 2003 Shaquille O'Neal

I still don't get the Wilt 1967 season he was like 5th in scoring on his own team in the finals and it was his best attribute.

70'sFan is an erudite basketball expert, and I'm not even a basketball expert, and he will respond (hopefully).

In the interim, here's this (you have to click on it and probably zoom in to see it):

JordansBulls wrote:I still don't get the Wilt 1967 season he was like 5th in scoring on his own team in the finals and it was his best attribute.

The Finals were only 6 out of 96 games Wilt played that season, or about 6.25% of his total season. The most important 6.25% to be sure, but still only 6.25%.

Wilt averaged 28.5 rebounds in those finals, that is a pretty good attribute. He also lead his team in assists and anchored the defense.

Sure, his scoring average was only 5th on his own team, but his FG% was .560 with his four higher scoring teammates at .399, .449, .451 and .455. Wilt's efficiency in the Finals was on a whole other level, just like it was in the regular season when he posted a 129 TS+ and 441.5 TS Add.

For comparison Shaq peaked at 116 TS+ and 302.8 TS Add.

JordansBulls wrote:

70sFan wrote:Top Shaq seasons:

2000
2001
2002
1998
1999
2003
1995
1994

Wilt's best seasons:

1967
1964
1968
1962
1965
1966
1963
1960

My order:

1. 1967 Wilt Chamberlain
2. 1964 Wilt Chamberlain
3. 2000 Shaquille O'Neal
4. 2001 Shaquille O'Neal
5. 1968 Wilt Chamberlain
6. 2002 Shaquille O'Neal
7. 1962 Wilt Chamberlain
8. 1965 Wilt Chamberlain
9. 1998 Shaquille O'Neal
10. 1966 Wilt Chamblerain
11. 1999 Shaquille O'Neal
12. 2003 Shaquille O'Neal

I still don't get the Wilt 1967 season he was like 5th in scoring on his own team in the finals and it was his best attribute.

It wasn't his best attribute though. Besides, he was by far the best player in the series, scoring isn't everything. He averaged almost 30 rpg in that series against Nate Thurmond (all-time great rebounder on his own), while blocking more shots than you can count and being the min playmaker on his team. Besides, he only didn't make 20 ppg mark because of his horrible FT shooting, Thurmond didn't slow down Wilt from the field.

[01-03 GOAT tier. 63-64 Wilt might be thee most dominant (non title) season ever.]

01 Wilt 66-67: 26.5 PER | .637 TS% | 129 TS+ | 21.9 WS | .285 WS/48
01 Wilt 66-67 Playoffs?!?: 25.3 PER | .546 TS% | 3.8 WS | .253 WS/48

02 Shaq 99-00: 30.6 PER | .578 TS% | 111 TS+ | 18.6 WS | .283 WS/48
02 Shaq 99-00 Playoffs?!?: 30.5 PER | .556 TS% | 4.7 WS | .224 WS/48

03 Wilt 63-64: 31.6 PER | .537 TS% | 111 TS+ | 25.0 WS | .325 WS/48
03 Wilt 63-64 Playoffs?!?: 31.3 PER | .543 TS% | 3.8 WS | .323 WS/48

[04-06 Inner Circle tier, as in these are some bad boys, bad boys. Might have 00-01 Shaq too low, that 15-1 postseason run was pretty insane.]

04 Wilt 61-62: 32.1 PER | .536 TS% | 112 TS+ | 23.1 WS | .286 WS/48
04 Wilt 61-62 Playoffs?!?: 29.7 PER | .508 TS% | 3.1 WS | .260 WS/48

05 Shaq 00-01: 30.2 PER | .574 TS% | 111 TS+ | 14.9 WS | .245 WS/48
05 Shaq 00-01 Playoffs?!?: 28.7 PER | .564 TS% | 3.7 WS | .260 WS/48

06 Shaq 01-02: 29.7 PER | .590 TS% | 113 TS+ | 13.2 WS | .262 WS/48
06 Shaq 01-02 Playoffs?!?: 28.3 PER | .569 TS% | 3.8 WS | .236 WS/48

[07-09 tier could go a few different ways. I went with the best combos of regular season/playoffs, but if one wanted to go heavier of regular season 93-94 Shaq and like four different Wilt seasons could easily fit here instead.]

07 Wilt 71-72: 18.5 PER | .610 TS% | 121 TS+ | 15.8 WS | .219 WS/48
07 Wilt 71-72 Playoffs?!?: 17.8 PER | .562 TS% | 3.0 WS | .205 WS/48

08 Shaq 02-03: 29.5 PER | .602 TS% | 116 TS+ | 13.2 WS | .250 WS/48
08 Shaq 02-03 Playoffs?!?: 30.6 PER | .570 TS% | 2.4 WS | .240 WS/48

09 Shaq 94-95: 28.6 PER | .588 TS% | 108 TS+ | 14.0 WS | .230 WS/48
09 Shaq 94-95 Playoffs?!?: 26.1 PER | .595 TS% | 3.0 WS | .180 WS/48

[10 Wild Card tier. Mostly just wanted to highlight how insane Wilt's final season was playing all 82 games (duh) and a scant 3,542 minutes at age 36]

10 Wilt 72-73: 19.1 PER | .689 TS% | 138 TS+ | 18.2 WS | .247 WS/48
10 Wilt 72-73 Playoffs?!?: 16.7 PER | .556 TS% | 2.7 WS | .162 WS/48