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Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 12:17 pm
by SpreeS
The most intriguing Green/Ginobili/B.Wallace/Billups/Allen, the most disappointing Dirk/Jokic/Iverson/Lillard/Mcgrady/Howard

D.Green +10.0
Embiid +8.3
Curry +8.1
Ginobili +7.7
Kawhi +7.4
Love +7.4 :D
Irving +7.2 :D
Lebron +6.2
Duncan +6.0
Klay +5.3
Durant +5.2
B.Wallace +5.2
Billups +5.2
Davis +5.0
O'Neal +4.9
Allen +4.8
Giannis +4.7
Parker +3.6
Harden +3.5
Wade +3.3
Kobe +3.3
R.Wallace +3.0
George +2.7
Tatum +2.6
Garnet +2.5
Wall +2.4
Marrion +2.4
Siakam +2.2
P.Gasol +2.1
Nash +2.1
Lowry +2.0
Westbrook +1.3
Pierce +1.2
Sprewell +0.8
M.Gasol +0.7
Paul +0.5
Kidd +0.5
Rose +0.5
Griffin +0.4
Butler 0.0
Amare -0.2
Dirk -0.2
Webber -0.4
Carter -0.5
Doncic -0.8
Howard -1.0
Jokic -2.2
Horford -2.4
Gobert -2.7
Iverson -2.9
LMA -4.6
Carmelo -4.9
Ming -5.3
Lillard -5.3
McGrady -5.4
DeRozan -8.4

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 2:08 pm
by scrabbarista
AKA, the "Who Were Your Teammates and What Conference Did You Play In?" list.

I kid. Kind of.

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 4:23 pm
by cpower
Paul +0.5

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 4:54 pm
by Colbinii
cpower wrote:Paul +0.5


Yup, it would be nice to cross-reference these to the SRS data floating around.

For example, Garnett on average was on a team -0.83 SRS advantage yet while on the court was +2.5

Curry currently sits at +8.1 Net Rtg but sits atop the SRS difference at +3.71.

Giannis for example is at +4.7 Net Rtf and has an SRS advantage of +2.3.

Obvious there will be a correlation here and it will be interesting to see what CP3's is.

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 5:04 pm
by cpower
Colbinii wrote:
cpower wrote:Paul +0.5


Yup, it would be nice to cross-reference these to the SRS data floating around.

For example, Garnett on average was on a team -0.83 SRS advantage yet while on the court was +2.5

Curry currently sits at +8.1 Net Rtg but sits atop the SRS difference at +3.71.

Giannis for example is at +4.7 Net Rtf and has an SRS advantage of +2.3.

Obvious there will be a correlation here and it will be interesting to see what CP3's is.

for all the teams he has been on, Hornets, Clippers, Rockets Suns...that +0.5 sounds pretty bad. I would have guessed like +3 at least.

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 5:10 pm
by Colbinii
cpower wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
cpower wrote:Paul +0.5


Yup, it would be nice to cross-reference these to the SRS data floating around.

For example, Garnett on average was on a team -0.83 SRS advantage yet while on the court was +2.5

Curry currently sits at +8.1 Net Rtg but sits atop the SRS difference at +3.71.

Giannis for example is at +4.7 Net Rtf and has an SRS advantage of +2.3.

Obvious there will be a correlation here and it will be interesting to see what CP3's is.

for all the teams he has been on, Hornets, Clippers, Rockets Suns...that +0.5 sounds pretty bad. I would have guessed like +3 at least.


Well you had awfully high hopes for Griffin in 2012 and 2013 then.

From 2014-2022 CP3 is at +3.5 Net Rtg.

In 2012 he was on a 2.82 SRS team and swept by a 7.28 SRS Spurs team [I would a 5 SRS difference is generally a sweep, maybe 4-1].

In 2013 they lost in the 1st round as the favorite and Blake Griffin was hurt/horrible [26 MPG, 13.5/5.5/2.5 on 52 TS% while CP3 was at 22.8/4.0/6.8 on 63.3 TS%].

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 5:47 pm
by Ginoboleee
Did I hear somebody call my name?
(Ginoboleeee!!!)

Would anybody like to help this analytics novice understand this stat?

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 5:54 pm
by RCM88x
Ginoboleee wrote:Did I hear somebody call my name?
(Ginoboleeee!!!)

Would anybody like to help this analytics novice understand this stat?


This is the point differential of a players team (per 100 possessions), while that player in on the court, in the playoffs.

Meaning, for his career, when Ginobili was on the court in the playoffs, his team outscored their opponent by 7.7 points per 100 possessions.

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 6:02 pm
by Ginoboleee
RCM88x wrote:
Ginoboleee wrote:Did I hear somebody call my name?
(Ginoboleeee!!!)

Would anybody like to help this analytics novice understand this stat?


This is the point differential of a players team (per 100 possessions), while that player in on the court, in the playoffs.

Meaning, for his career, when Ginobili was on the court in the playoffs, his team outscored their opponent by 7.7 points per 100 possessions.


Thanks.
So this stat's overall order reflects one of the following:
1. Which players were on court while their teams did great in the playoffs in spite of their play.
2. Which players were on court while their teams did great in the playoffs but having nothing to do with their play.
3. Which players were on court while their teams did great in the playoffs because of their play.

Once we make an assumption about coaches/lineups/matchups then perhaps #3 becomes a fair interpretation?
Especially for players who aren't normally starters? hehe, wonder who I am talking about.

Re: Career PO netrtg

Posted: Tue Jul 5, 2022 9:21 pm
by f4p
Chris Paul SRS Differential is +1.1