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Top 8 Seasons Combined: Curry or KG

Does not have to be in a row. Just the top 8.

My Ranking
1. 2017 Curry
2. 2016 Curry
3. 2004 KG
4. 2003 KG
5. 2008 KG
6. 2018 Curry
7. 2021 Curry
8. 2015 Curry

HMs:
9. 2002 KG (6 to 10 range for me)
10. 2019 Curry (7 to 10 range)
11. 2006 KG
12. 2000 KG
13. 2001 KG
14. 2005 KG
15. 2022 Curry
16. 2007 KG
17. 2014 Curry
EDIT: Moving 2018 Curry down to the new 10-12 range because injury, 2002 KG moves up to 8th, 2022 Curry above 2005 KG - unsure of it over that 00/01/06 group but may give it the edge now

2009 KG is weird because the injury and no playoffs but would probably rank in the 14-18 range

Steph probably still edges out the top 8 seasons for me because I think he's still just a better player p4p and idt he fluctuates his quality like crazy when healthy but it's also so hard because of injuries and I don't know exactly how to weigh them

Proxy wrote:My Ranking
1. 2017 Curry
2. 2016 Curry
3. 2004 KG
4. 2003 KG
5. 2008 KG
6. 2018 Curry
7. 2021 Curry
8. 2015 Curry

HMs:
9. 2002 KG (6 to 10 range for me)
10. 2019 Curry (7 to 10 range)
11. 2006 KG
12. 2000 KG
13. 2001 KG
14. 2005 KG
15. 2022 Curry
16. 2007 KG
17. 2014 Curry
2009 KG is weird because the injury and no playoffs but would probably rank in the 14-18 range

Steph probably still edges out the top 8 seasons for me because I think he's still just a better player p4p and idt he fluctuates his quality like crazy when healthy but it's also so hard because of injuries and I don't know exactly how to weigh them

If you add up the rankings it goes Curry 66 to KGs 103. That's a hell of a difference if you ask me. Not really all that close.

mdonnelly1989 wrote:

Proxy wrote:My Ranking
1. 2017 Curry
2. 2016 Curry
3. 2004 KG
4. 2003 KG
5. 2008 KG
6. 2018 Curry
7. 2021 Curry
8. 2015 Curry

HMs:
9. 2002 KG (6 to 10 range for me)
10. 2019 Curry (7 to 10 range)
11. 2006 KG
12. 2000 KG
13. 2001 KG
14. 2005 KG
15. 2022 Curry
16. 2007 KG
17. 2014 Curry
2009 KG is weird because the injury and no playoffs but would probably rank in the 14-18 range

Steph probably still edges out the top 8 seasons for me because I think he's still just a better player p4p and idt he fluctuates his quality like crazy when healthy but it's also so hard because of injuries and I don't know exactly how to weigh them

If you add up the rankings it goes Curry 66 to KGs 103. That's a hell of a difference if you ask me. Not really all that close.

Well they did just ask for a top 8(idk how you calculated those btw). If KG didn't have those other years I might as well have just have Steph higher all-time, which I can't see myself doing yet

Proxy wrote:My Ranking
1. 2017 Curry
2. 2016 Curry
3. 2004 KG
4. 2003 KG
5. 2008 KG
6. 2018 Curry
7. 2021 Curry
8. 2015 Curry

HMs:
9. 2002 KG (6 to 10 range for me)
10. 2019 Curry (7 to 10 range)
11. 2006 KG
12. 2000 KG
13. 2001 KG
14. 2005 KG
15. 2022 Curry
16. 2007 KG
17. 2014 Curry
2009 KG is weird because the injury and no playoffs but would probably rank in the 14-18 range

Steph probably still edges out the top 8 seasons for me because I think he's still just a better player p4p and idt he fluctuates his quality like crazy when healthy but it's also so hard because of injuries and I don't know exactly how to weigh them

2018 Curry missed 31 games, he doesn’t belong on this list and 2014 Curry above some of Kg’s other prime years is a joke.

No-more-rings wrote:2018 Curry missed 31 games, he doesn’t belong on this list and 2014 Curry above some of Kg’s other prime years is a joke.

Yeah I was considering moving 2018 lower but when he was actually playing I think he was pretty similar in quality to how he was in 2016 and 2017 and he did play 15 games in the playoffs. I might still do it though but my answer to the original question doesn't really change.

What other "prime" KG years(so more than one) deserve to be considered *clearly* higher than 2014 Steph? 2009?(Fair enough, I do think he was better when healthy and I did say I could see him at the top of that range) 1999? 2011 or 2012?(Could also buy 2012 based on his playoff performance) C'mon now I can't see how that is nearly as egregious are you are making it out to be

Not in order

2003 Garnett
2004 Garnett
2005 Garnett
2006 Garnett
2008 Garnett
2015 Curry
2016 Curry
2017 Curry

Proxy wrote:
Yeah I was considering moving 2018 lower but when he was actually playing I think he was pretty similar in quality to how he was in 2016 and 2017 and he did play 15 games in the playoffs. I might still do it though but my answer to the original question doesn't really change.

He missed 31 regular season games plus 6 games in the playoffs. On availability alone, it's not really conceivable that season ranks higher than healthy KG. And honestly his playoff run was pretty underwhelming even when he did get in there, they came very close to losing to an inferior Rockets team and that was arguably not even a top 5 playoff run for Curry.

Proxy wrote:What other "prime" KG years(so more than one) deserve to be considered *clearly* higher than 2014 Steph? 2009?(Fair enough, I do think he was better when healthy and I did say I could see him at the top of that range) 1999? 2011 or 2012?(Could also buy 2012 based on his playoff performance) C'mon now I can't see how that is nearly as egregious are you are making it out to be

I mistakenly thought you had 2014 Curry above 2002, and 2005-2007 for some reason.

No-more-rings wrote:He missed 31 regular season games plus 6 games in the playoffs. On availability alone, it's not really conceivable that season ranks higher than healthy KG. And honestly his playoff run was pretty underwhelming even when he did get in there, they came very close to losing to an inferior Rockets team and that was arguably not even a top 5 playoff run for Curry.

Regular Season to Playoffs:

-5.9 PER
-8.5 TS% (!!)
-55% OWS/48 (from 0.212 to 0.095, only the Warriors having the best playoff defense after slacking in the regular season makes his WS48 only a pretty bad -32%)

And that's missing the #3 Spurs defense and getting to play #14 NO and #29 Cleveland for 2 of his series. Definitely underwhelming.

2004 KG
2017 Curry
2003 KG
2021 Curry
2016 Curry
2002 KG
2008 KG
2015 Curry
2019 Curry

2009 KG is as good as 2008 when healthy, but he was not healthy at all, so it doesn't really count for anything.

2016 Curry
2004 KG
2022 Curry
2015 Curry
2017 Curry
2018 Curry
2008 KG

If its just regular seasons then I think I vote KG. With playoffs included its hard not to vote Steph since they do matter quite a bit and Steph has 4 rings plus another season where he was a unanimous mvp while KG only had two deep playoff runs while in his prime.

mdonnelly1989 wrote:

Proxy wrote:My Ranking
1. 2017 Curry
2. 2016 Curry
3. 2004 KG
4. 2003 KG
5. 2008 KG
6. 2018 Curry
7. 2021 Curry
8. 2015 Curry

HMs:
9. 2002 KG (6 to 10 range for me)
10. 2019 Curry (7 to 10 range)
11. 2006 KG
12. 2000 KG
13. 2001 KG
14. 2005 KG
15. 2022 Curry
16. 2007 KG
17. 2014 Curry
2009 KG is weird because the injury and no playoffs but would probably rank in the 14-18 range

Steph probably still edges out the top 8 seasons for me because I think he's still just a better player p4p and idt he fluctuates his quality like crazy when healthy but it's also so hard because of injuries and I don't know exactly how to weigh them

If you add up the rankings it goes Curry 66 to KGs 103. That's a hell of a difference if you ask me. Not really all that close.

Hiya mdonnelly1989.

That's... a pretty silly way to rank players. Just adding up the rankings means players get less points for having the better rankings and more points for having worse rankings. .

Let's take the most extreme example.... let's say Player A gets every year from Rank #1 to #8, while Player B gets every year from Rank #9 to #16. Then Player A gets 36 points while Player B gets 100 points. In this method, you'd be penalizing Player A for having fewer points, despite literally every year of Player A being better than Player B...

DraymondGold wrote:

mdonnelly1989 wrote:

Proxy wrote:My Ranking
1. 2017 Curry
2. 2016 Curry
3. 2004 KG
4. 2003 KG
5. 2008 KG
6. 2018 Curry
7. 2021 Curry
8. 2015 Curry

HMs:
9. 2002 KG (6 to 10 range for me)
10. 2019 Curry (7 to 10 range)
11. 2006 KG
12. 2000 KG
13. 2001 KG
14. 2005 KG
15. 2022 Curry
16. 2007 KG
17. 2014 Curry
2009 KG is weird because the injury and no playoffs but would probably rank in the 14-18 range

Steph probably still edges out the top 8 seasons for me because I think he's still just a better player p4p and idt he fluctuates his quality like crazy when healthy but it's also so hard because of injuries and I don't know exactly how to weigh them

If you add up the rankings it goes Curry 66 to KGs 103. That's a hell of a difference if you ask me. Not really all that close.

Hiya mdonnelly1989.

That's... a pretty silly way to rank players. Just adding up the rankings means players get less points for having the better rankings and more points for having worse rankings. .

Let's take the most extreme example.... let's say Player A gets every year from Rank #1 to #8, while Player B gets every year from Rank #9 to #16. Then Player A gets 36 points while Player B gets 100 points. In this method, you'd be penalizing Player A for having fewer points, despite literally every year of Player A being better than Player B...

Nah, inverse scoring is fine. It's used in the Olympia for example.

The method is silly for completely unrelated reasons.