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Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 3:46 pm
by 1993Playoffs
For me he is close but falls a bit short
Is KG top 10 to you?
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:16 pm
by jdzimme3
No. Limited as a scorer and limited team success. Amazingly well rounded though and very fun to watch. I would have him around 15-20
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 4:53 pm
by Whopper_Sr
KG is one of my 7 pantheon players
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 5:06 pm
by No-more-rings
Not for me, but I get the argument. As mentioned, his inability to consistently raise his scoring in the playoffs hurts him compared to others.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 5:15 pm
by Stan
Emphatic no from me, in terms of both all time ranking and peak play. And that's not even a slight against him, KG's someone who I'd rank top 20 all time, and roughly top 20-25 peak wise. But for whatever reason, this board really seems to overrate him. He frankly has no case resume/accolade wise for top 10 all time, and while peak play is obviously much more subjective, there's no way he's cracking my top 10 in that regard either.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 5:42 pm
by Dutchball97
If he were a bit more lucky with his teammates during his prime he'd have a strong case so I don't think it's too farfetched for people who look at players in a vacuum to put him in their top 10 but for me his play-off resume is a bit on the light side for a top 10 placement.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 5:51 pm
by PistolPeteJR
My answer is no, but he's definitely top-15, and I don't know that one can argue he's outside of it.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 5:58 pm
by CharityStripe34
He's somewhere in the 15-20 range for me. Perhaps a bit higher.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:02 pm
by tsherkin
Hard for me to see him as a top 10 player all-time.
Certainly a player whose individual ability ranks rather highly, because he was very, very good. A dominant defensive presence, an MVP, got himself a ring, anchored an ATG defense in Boston that changed how the game was played under Thibs' defensive guidance, etc.
But his resume is far too lacking compared to his peers in the upper echelon of the game for him to really be in consideration for me. Single MVP, never separated himself from Duncan or Dirk, fairly limited team postseason success prior to joining Boston (outside of a fun season in 04 that was ruined by injuries), etc. That doesn't really matter so much to discussing how good he was, but when you enter a discussion with a bunch of players at a similar overall level of performance, there has to be something setting them apart... and the multiple guys with dramatically more dominant profiles (including some lacking his relatively tepid scoring efficiency and postseason scoring threat)... well, something's gotta give, right?
15-25, maybe, seems around the correct range IMHO.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:13 pm
by LukaTheGOAT
In the RS.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:52 pm
by NW BBALL
Great player but definitely overrated on this board.
Hard for me to see a justification over the following 13 (in loose order) -
Jordan
LBJ
KAJ
Russell
Bird
Magic
Duncan
O’Neal
Hakeem
Curry
Bryant
West
Durant
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 7:58 pm
by 1993Playoffs
NW BBALL wrote:Great player but definitely overrated on this board.
Hard for me to see a justification over the following 13 (in loose order) -
Jordan
LBJ
KAJ
Russell
Bird
Magic
Duncan
O’Neal
Hakeem
Curry
Bryant
West
Durant
So KG has no case VS Durant to you? Not sure if I can agree with that
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 8:15 pm
by pipfan
I have him top 15, but I don't have him about MJ, LBJ, KAJ, Duncan, Shaq, Bird, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Hakeem or Kobe
I have him with West, Dr. J, Curry and Moses
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:14 pm
by MyUniBroDavis
I think KG is someone who was ridiculously good, and based off of his pure ability and level of play is a top ten player ever, but was in an unfortunate circumstance and honestly just didn’t accomplish enough to be up there.
KG is probably top ten most talented player and a top ten best basketball player ever, but he’s not a top ten greatest player ever. I think it’s not his fault and in different circumstance he could be higher, but it’s unfortunately not what panned out
You could rank him pretty low based on that, I mean he has about as many playoff runs as a lot of guys have chips
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:15 pm
by Colbinii
Easily for me.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:27 pm
by Bubbachuck2
If we switch him with Duncan, does this change? Supporting case does matter
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:34 pm
by An Unbiased Fan
Bubbachuck2 wrote:If we switch him with Duncan, does this change? Supporting case does matter
I'm not sure what year the Spurs would have won with KG instead of TD.
In fact LA likely fourpeats in 2003. TD on that 04 Minny team might win it all, and on the Big 3 Celtics hasa shot at more
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:34 pm
by Jaivl
I think he is. I get he's a controversial guy (depending on the criteria one has on their GOAT list I could see him lower, around the late teens) but for me he's a top 10 player and a top 5 talent.
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 10:55 pm
by No-more-rings
tsherkin wrote:15-25, maybe, seems around the correct range IMHO.
You think he can get as low as 25?
Re: Is Kevin Garnett a top 10 player of all time?
Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 11:18 pm
by tsherkin
No-more-rings wrote:tsherkin wrote:15-25, maybe, seems around the correct range IMHO.
You think he can get as low as 25?
That's what I said, yep.