Colbinii wrote:There should be some stipulations to this otherwise I dont see a case for anyone other than Duncan.
1998 David Robinson
2003 Tim Duncan
2016 Kawhi Leonard
2005 Manu Ginobili
2013 Tony Parker
Bench: 2016 LMA
2003 Bruce Bowen
2015 Danny Green
2014 Boris Diaw
1999 Avery Bradley
The discussion by y'all about the Spurs is interesting. It brings up the question: when does a dynasty start and stop being a dynasty?
To me, my qualitative has always been something like: as long as the dynasty's core is able to win championships. Of course, that brings up other questions...
1. Who's part of the core? If the Spurs Dynasty's core is just Duncan, then theoretically we might include every year for 98-16. If it's the big 3 of Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker, then the dynasty might start later in 2003 (or even later in 2005 if we want Ginobili and Parker to be in their prime). If Pop and Spurs Culture are an important part of the core, we might extend the dynasty to 2017.
2. And what determines when and how a team's able to win championships? Is it just within the bounds of when they actually won a championship (so 1999-2014), or do we also include edge cases where the teams were "championship-level" (such as 2016/2017)?
I'm not sure there's a right answer here, so feel free to take whatever interpretation you find most interesting. Personally, I tend to agree that the Spurs would be the obvious best team if we included the full 1999-2016 range (plus possibly 1998 or 2017). In that case, perhaps we split the Spurs dynasty in two...
Spurs Dynasty Part 1: 1999-2008 (so first time they won a championship to the last time they made the conference finals before their 4-year intermission) (edit: or starting in 98 if you'd like to have a better Robinson
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Spurs Dynasty Part 2: 2009-2017 (starting with the brief hiatus and going through the last time they made a conference finals)
Colbinii wrote:Do we consider "Wade's Heat" a Dynasty from 2005-2014?
I personally wouldn't, but you're welcome to add them to the list if you think it's interesting!
4 years of poor regular season and postseason play (for a dynasty) from 2007-2010 knocks them off my own dynasty list. I would be open to the Lebron-Wade Heat as a dynasty though from 2011-2014.
For that matter, it would be interesting to consider the "Prime LeBron Team" as a dynasty, particularly during that run when he made the Finals every year from 2011-2018. If we get to pick star players from both the LeBron Heat and the 2nd Cavs stint, that dynasty obviously shoots up the list given they could have a 5-allstar starting lineup of Kyrie, Wade, LeBron, Love, Bosh.