Greatest Peaks Project (2022): #41 - 1974-75 Artis Gilmore

LA Bird · Post #1 » by **LA Bird** » Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:42 pm

RealGM Greatest Peaks List (2022)
1. 1990-91 Michael Jordan
2. 2012-13 LeBron James
3. 1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal
4. 1976-77 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
5. 1966-67 Wilt Chamberlain
6. 2002-03 Tim Duncan
7. 1993-94 Hakeem Olajuwon
8. 1963-64 Bill Russell
9. 1985-86 Larry Bird
10. 1986-87 Magic Johnson
11. 2016-17 Stephen Curry
12. 2003-04 Kevin Garnett
13. 2020-21 Giannis Antetokounmpo
14. 1963-64 Oscar Robertson
15. 1965-66 Jerry West
16. 2021-22 Nikola Jokic
17. 1976-77 Bill Walton
18. 2005-06 Dwyane Wade
19. 2007-08 Kobe Bryant
20. 1993-94 David Robinson
21. 2016-17 Kawhi Leonard
22. 1975-76 Julius Erving
23. 2010-11 Dirk Nowitzki
24. 2016-17 Kevin Durant
25. 1982-83 Moses Malone
26. 2019-20 Anthony Davis
27. 2006-07 Steve Nash
28. 2014-15 Chris Paul
29. 2018-19 James Harden
30. 1949-50 George Mikan
31. 1989-90 Charles Barkley
32. 1997-98 Karl Malone
33. 1989-90 Patrick Ewing
34. 2002-03 Tracy McGrady
35. 2010-11 Dwight Howard
36. 2021-22 Joel Embiid
37. 1957-58 Bob Pettit
38. 1994-95 Scottie Pippen
39. 1995-96 Penny Hardaway
40. 2015-16 Draymond Green
41. 1974-75 Artis Gilmore

Spoiler:

Please vote for your 3 highest player peaks and at least one line of reasoning for each of them.

Vote example 1
1. 1991 Jordan: Explanation
2. 2013 LeBron: Explanation
3. 2000 Shaq: Explanation

In addition, you can also list other peak season candidates from those three players. This extra step is entirely optional

Vote example 2
1. 1991 Jordan: Explanation
(1990 Jordan)
2. 2013 LeBron: Explanation
(2012 LeBron)
(2009 LeBron)
3. 2000 Shaq: Explanation

You can visit the project thread for further information on why this makes a difference and how the votes will be counted at the end of the round.

Voting for this round will close on Monday October 17, 9am ET.

trelos6 · Post #2 » by **trelos6** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 12:05 am

41. Grant Hill 96-97. Pre injury Grant was a beast. Shame we never got to see his full potential. 23.2 pp75 on +2 rTS% with 3.5 O-PIPM and 1.7 D-PIPM. This is the only season I’d have above Reggie Miller.

42. Reggie Miller 93-94. A gravity unrivalled until Steph came into the league. His ability to space the floor for teammates and ramp up his scoring in the post season is why he's here. One of the most portable players of all time and a big ceiling raiser. 23 pp75 at +10.8 rTS%. Had about 9 seasons similar, so they’re all pretty close.

43: not sure yet, there are a few options. Artis Gilmore, Paul George, Bob McAdoo, Walt Frazier etc. I’ll have to do a deep dive and update since we’re going into the 40’s.

Artis Gilmore 81-82. 19.7 pp75 @ +16.4% rTS. +4 PIPM (2.2 OPIPM, 1.8 DPIPM). Yes he was probably better in the ABA, but it's really hard for me to put one of those seasons.

Bob McAdoo 1974-75. 26.7 pp75 @ + 6.7% rTS. +4.6 PIPM (4.1 OPIPM, 0,5 DPIPM). NBA MVP.

Walt Frazier 1969-70 > 72-73. 16.8 pp75 @ + 6.4% rTS. All D, All NBA first teams.

Paul George 18-19. 26.6 pp75 @ + 2.6% rTS. +6.1 PIPM (3.9 OPIPM, 2.2 DPIPM). 3rd in MVP.

Paul Pierce 01-02. 25.3 pp75 @ + 5.0% rTS. + 5.2 PIPM (3.3 OPIPM, 1.9 DPIPM).

Willis Reed 69-70. League MVP. Led Knicks to the title. Fantastic D. All-D, All NBA first teams.

Manu Ginobili 04-05 > 06-07, 10-11. 21.9 pp75 @ +8 rTS%. +7.1 PIPM (4.4 OPIPM, 2.7 DPIPM). Amazing season, and fantastic playoffs.

I think Butler and Embiid are hurt by their best seasons missing a fair bit of time due to injuries (and Jimmy's poor playoffs in 21).

After some consideration, at 43, I'm going Manu Ginobili 2004-05.

AEnigma · Post #3 » by **AEnigma** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:35 am

1. Bob Lanier (1974)
2. Alonzo Mourning (2000)
3. Nate Thurmond (1969, 1967)
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2231209#p101507479
Post was becoming excessively long lol.

For next round, wrestling with the remainder of the 1970s relative to the modern era. Current instinct is to take Barry over any remaining 1970s players, but in that case, it becomes a comparison of Barry against modern perimetre players, and that feels tough. I do love his complementary passing relative to anyone on the board, but that has limits.

mdonnelly1989 · Post #4 » by **mdonnelly1989** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 3:04 am

Wow. Draymond Green over Jimmy Butler.

AEnigma · Post #5 » by **AEnigma** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 4:58 am

mdonnelly1989 wrote:Wow. Draymond Green over Jimmy Butler.

Did not get around to voting for him, but I had kind-of arrived to that point too (if Lanier had been admitted last round, I think I would have been voting for Draymond now

). I guess for posterity, here is a partial explanation for my reasoning:

We have seen Gobert be the clear (by “data” at least) best player on a pretty strong run of Jazz teams. In the regular season, I do not see peak — 2015-17 — Draymond as any less impactful than Gobert, who honestly I had top two on my personal 2021 MVP ballot. Of course where Draymond separates himself from Gobert is that he maintains his impact into the postseason. Under his leadership, the Warriors have been pretty consistently something like a -4 postseason defence. I am not the first person to make this point, but the Warriors have quietly been more of a defensive dynasty than an offensive dynasty, and pretty much any real impact metric of choice has him and Steph as co-leaders and of comparable value to the team.

I am also not the first person to point out Draymond has pretty routinely outpaced Curry’s postseason impact. It is one of the biggest reasons I am still a little bit wary of boosting Curry too high (~8-12 for peaks seems appropriate to me, but of course his fanbase likes to push a lot higher), because a lot of his otherworldly impact metrics are shared with Draymond. That tends to be weaponised against Draymond rather than against Curry, but at Draymond’s peak he at least fares reasonably well without Curry. Those first eight postseason games for the Warriors in 2016 perhaps go a bit undersold — Draymond was putting up a pretty efficient 22 points a game for a chunk of that absence while helping Klay function as a true first option — and if you look at his numbers in those peak years with Curry off the court, he shows some decent ability to elevate his scoring.

Hypothetically, if Curry happened to miss the entire 2016 season, I could definitely see Draymond averaging something like 17 points a game on 57% efficiency, which is not anything crazy but is pretty nice when it comes from the league’s best defender and the team’s best passer. That is not that far off what Bill Walton was doing in 1977; I am not saying Draymond is on the same level, but when we collectively accept players like Russell and Walton as these all-time peaks, it is kind-of funny how that reflex vanishes when it comes to someone like Draymond, who has abstractly comparable “impact” and is the greatest postseason defender of his generation. Imagine how good Ben Wallace would be if he scored more, scored better, had enough range that defences could not safely ignore him, and was an excellent passing big. And Ben Wallace was arguably the best guy on a pretty secure title team! Look at how good Bam is right now; I gestured at this thought a couple of threads ago, but in the regular season he was probably more valuable per minute/possession to the Heat than Butler was… and peak Draymond was a good deal better than that, while maintaining his value into the postseason!

Draymond’s only real blemish is that the Curry-less sample is tiny, and unlike Penny or Pippen he does not have a season where he captained an otherwise intact core to a 50-win pace and a decent postseason result. That is worth the penalty to an extent, but uncertainty should not be conflated with inability. Because had he done that — in my hypothetical 2016 Curry-less season — I probably would have voted him several spots higher. As is, #40 seems pretty appropriate (even if it did come at the expense of a player I have been backing since thread #34

).

EDIT — Adding a link to this comment as further support and for future reference in all subsequent Peaks Projects:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=2233813#p101680696

OhayoKD · Post #6 » by **OhayoKD** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:55 am

1. 17 Westbrook
(2016)
Having out-valued, out-box stat'd and out-played prime KD in the post-season while staying within range in the regular season, 2016 Westbrook(and to an extent 2014 westbrook) is a great peak aready. Adding in westbrook's tendency to get better vs stronger opponents and his significant playoff elevation on very strong playoff opponents(crushing the 70 win spurs, taking the warriors to 7, pushing the 14 spurs to overtime of game 6, beating the best clippersi iterations, ect, ect) and Westbrook accomplishing this without good spacing, 2016(and 2014 to a degree) sets a verty strong floor.

2017 Westbrook can claim a stronger regular season performance(second in impact stuff behind 2017 curry), a better skill-set(stronger catch and shoot) and nothing about the rockets first playoff exit really calls into questions Westbrook's track record as a playoff elevator.

2. 2022 Luka
(2021)
APM is kind of sus but "real impact" makes for a maybe he should have been rated higher case. Rookie Luka is plausibly beating the full fleged clippers with a healthy co-star(and himself), second year luka takes them to 7 with his co-star not performing well(consider how much praise durant was afforded for going 1-3 without qa healthy costar vs the bucks in the best performance of his career), and 2022 Luka is knocking out a 60 win team before losing to the eventual champs.. I think in absolute basketball terms luka could be alot better than his era-relative impact. Very few players in history have hisrange of playmaking/dribble penetrartion OR his versatility as a post-season scorer. At this point i'm willing to overlook the questionable apm results and vote him in

3. 2020 Jimmy Butler
(2021)
Multiple seasons make it seem like playoff butler isn't really a fluke in which case his production, versatility, and his role as the leader for a contender make him a reasonable pick here. Biggest knock is maybe bam was actually more valuable for two of rheir 4 wins, but his performance vs the lakers with bam hobbled affords him alot of credit. Not unreasonable to think that's a different series if the heat are healthy, As it is, the heat, despite being hobbled, were the only team to take 2 games off the lakers and beat a contention level celtics side(who trumped 60 win toronto) and an atg looking bucks team. I think they, and butler deserve more credit than they're usually afforded

70sFan · Post #7 » by **70sFan** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:18 am

1. 1974/75 Artis Gilmore HM: 1975/76

I hope to make a long breakdown of his game at some point, but for now I will make it short - GOAT-level inside finisher, excellent low post scorer and one of the best rim protectors ever. People who only saw him in the Spurs don't realize that this guy was 7'2 Dwight Howard in terms of physical talent. Strong as a bull, but also surprisingly light on his feet. By 1975, his offensive game was developed (earlier versions were significantly less refined offensively) and his left handed hook to the middle was only short to Kareem's skyhook. By that time, there was just no way to affect the way he played, he just did his things against anyone. Gilmore was also a monstrous offensive rebounder, which combined with his finishing ability gave him Shaq-esque effect off-ball.

Weaknesses: sometimes he became too passive on offense, his vision left a lot of concerns for a centerpiece. These things prevented him from top 30 peak to me, but I still view him as better than other bigman candidates (Reed, Lanier, McAdoo, Mourning) due to his combination of absurd efficiency and defense.

Man defense:

Spoiler:

1975-79 Gilmore's production based on defenses faced (both in RS and PS):

Against bad defenses (+2.0 or worse): 19.4 pp36 on +10.6 rTS%
Against good defenses (-2.0 or better): 20.9 pp36 on +7.9 rTS%

2. 1971/72 Walt Frazier HM: 1970/71, 1972/73

Walt Frazier is certainly among the greatest defensive guards the league has ever seen. He was well known for his ability to steal the ball, but I'd argue that his man defense and versatility were just as important. Some people view him as a gambler, but he was the key factor of Knicks trapping defense and despite taking a lot of risks, he made surprisingly few mistakes per attempts.

I think what's misunderstood is how outstanding he was on offensive end though. If you ever found any time to watch prime Frazier games, you'll see the master of midrange game in action. Frazier's big frame in combination with his footwork, variety of fakes and shooting touch made him almost impossible to guard in midrange area. Not to mention that he was a criminally underrated ball-handler that could abuse smaller defenders down low and outquick bigger ones in switches with surprising speed.

This highlight reel from one game that I made a few years ago shows nicely who Frazier was at his peak - crafty midrange beast with strong ability to draw fouls and just an amazing defender on the other side of the court:

Watch on YouTube

To be honest, I'd put him ahead of Penny, but it's not a crime that Hardaway went in before him.

3. 1973/74 Bob Lanier HM: 1974/75

To be honest, I can't decide between Reed and Lanier right now. I think Lanier was more versatile offensively, but Reed was clearly a better defender. I hope that we'll get a longer discussion about it in next threads (I will try to be more active).

HMs: Westbrook, Baylor, Barry, Mourning, Thurmond, Reed, Mutombo

CharityStripe34 · Post #8 » by **CharityStripe34** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:03 am

Draymond Green. LOL.

CharityStripe34 · Post #9 » by **CharityStripe34** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 10:09 am

Copy and Pasted

1. Rick Barry (1975): Someone who definitely gets lost in all-time discussions, mostly because he made a big impact coming into the league in the mid-late 60's, but then went to the ABA for a few seasons. Only then to return to the NBA and, thanks to his awesome season, took the Warriors as a massive underdog to the Finals against a really good Bullets team and demolished them in a sweep. 30-6-5 on 46% shooting and considering he did much of his damage shooting dribble pull-ups that's pretty damn good, in my eyes. He had better post-season stats in 1967, but 28-6-6 with 3 steals is nothing to sneeze at (12.7 WS). Yeah, he had a girly FT shooting motion, but led basketball multiple times with above 90% from the stripe.

Honorable mention: 1967, 1969

2. Sidney Moncrief (1983): Probably a very controversial pick over someone like Reggie Miller, who has huge shooting bona fides that could be plucked from, say 1994 into today's game, but that's not what I'm really considering. Moncrief was 5x All-NBA and 5x All-Defensive in an incredibly talent-laden era, being a two-time DPOY as well. From 82-86 he was a 20-6-4 guard with elite defensive chops for a very gritty, tough Bucks team that just ran into the Sixers and then Celtics. 1983 was his best statistical RS in the regular and advanced stats even though in 84 & 85 he was slightly better in the playoffs. I would not hold it against anyone if they felt Miller's awesome playoff runs in 94-95 (his peak) puts him over Moncrief. Call it a homer pick, but I'll take Moncrief's two-way excellence.

Honorable mention: 1982, 1984

3. Bob McAdoo (1975): His MVP season where he averaged a cool 35 pts and 14 rbs a game, while getting to the stripe nearly 10x per game and shooting 80%. Also averaged a couple of blocks a game. Then he dragged a Braves team to the post-season that same year and put up 37(!)pts and 13 rbs per game, with nearly three blocks. His shooting percentages dipped a bit but that generalizes even with the all-time greats, as he shot around 4 more attempts per game. A versatile big who was maybe the first of his kind as a "stretch" big, shooting from distance.

Honorable mention: 1974, 1976

Owly · Post #10 » by **Owly** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:54 am

CharityStripe34 wrote:Copy and Pasted

1. Rick Barry (1975): Someone who definitely gets lost in all-time discussions, mostly because he made a big impact coming into the league in the mid-late 60's, but then went to the ABA for a few seasons. Only then to return to the NBA and, thanks to his awesome season, took the Warriors as a massive underdog to the Finals against a really good Bullets team and demolished them in a sweep. 30-6-5 on 46% shooting and considering he did much of his damage shooting dribble pull-ups that's pretty damn good, in my eyes. He had better post-season stats in 1967, but 28-6-6 with 3 steals is nothing to sneeze at (12.7 WS). Yeah, he had a girly FT shooting motion, but led basketball multiple times with above 90% from the stripe.

If one is shouting for arrival impact one could note that in the ABA his team won the title without him. His ABA numbers weren't exceptional once the league started getting some NBA level talent (though not as much as its latter, concentrated levels).

On "massive underdog". Hard to parse (underdog to get to the finals, in the finals?) but ...
1) What is underdog based on? If unspectacular RS performance Barry was a part of that.
2) GS were - with a 2.86 SRS - just barely 2nd in the West (2nd to 2.88 Bulls) and with HCA within conference as the top seed, should be regarded as favorites (though certainly not massively so) to make the finals. They did defeat the Bulls and series points diff suggests they were the better team, but in a series that, based on overall season performance and on what actually happened could have gone the other way (or GS could have won it sooner). Their other victory on route to the finals was over -1.19 SRS Seattle.
3) "Demolished" is either somewhat redundant reiterating sweep in the notion that all sweeps are "demolitions", or misleading in that a total 16 point margin over 4 games is not a demolition (especially not so for a sweep). One could easily imagine slightly different reffing calls might tilt games a couple of points either way, and if a couple go in one direction then we could be looking at a 2-2 series.
Within the finals too whilst all aspects of the game are interrelated the largest area of separation is the Warriors domination of the glass (not an area Barry significantly contributed to, at least directly). If even a reserve like Truck Robinson rebounds at his normal RS rate (10.9 per 36 rather than his finals 5.785714286) he could grab 8 more rebounds and if those aren't cannibalized (and there are plenty of would-be defensive rebounds that Washington missed) that's 8 possessions that GSW don't get another chance at a shot up or, if at the other end, the Bullets do.
I don't love the derogatory connotation around a "girly" free throw form where that is offered as a weakness then contrasted ("but") with a strength. That he may have ignored any stigma (if it were there then) would be a pro beyond the baked in fact that clearly adds value versus the alternative (even if he were, say an 83% shooter with a conventional form) it may offer a marginal intangible boost, in indicating a willingness to ignore external nonsense and image to find an advantage to win.

None of which is to say Barry isn't good or the Warriors win somehow doesn't count. I just don't find the case offered persuasive that this was a great peak.

AEnigma · Post #11 » by **AEnigma** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:02 pm

CharityStripe34 wrote:Draymond Green. LOL.

Yeah that was how I felt when Pettit made it in, but that is why the project is a panel effort.

70sFan · Post #12 » by **70sFan** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 2:43 pm

AEnigma wrote:
CharityStripe34 wrote:Draymond Green. LOL.

Yeah that was how I felt when Pettit made it in, but that is why the project is a panel effort.

Don't understand either of you. Both are quite defensible choices at this point, easy to understand why.

CharityStripe34 · Post #13 » by **CharityStripe34** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:05 pm

Owly wrote:
CharityStripe34 wrote:Copy and Pasted

1. Rick Barry (1975): Someone who definitely gets lost in all-time discussions, mostly because he made a big impact coming into the league in the mid-late 60's, but then went to the ABA for a few seasons. Only then to return to the NBA and, thanks to his awesome season, took the Warriors as a massive underdog to the Finals against a really good Bullets team and demolished them in a sweep. 30-6-5 on 46% shooting and considering he did much of his damage shooting dribble pull-ups that's pretty damn good, in my eyes. He had better post-season stats in 1967, but 28-6-6 with 3 steals is nothing to sneeze at (12.7 WS). Yeah, he had a girly FT shooting motion, but led basketball multiple times with above 90% from the stripe.

If one is shouting for arrival impact one could note that in the ABA his team won the title without him. His ABA numbers weren't exceptional once the league started getting some NBA level talent (though not as much as its latter, concentrated levels).

On "massive underdog". Hard to parse (underdog to get to the finals, in the finals?) but ...
1) What is underdog based on? If unspectacular RS performance Barry was a part of that.
2) GS were - with a 2.86 SRS - just barely 2nd in the West (2nd to 2.88 Bulls) and with HCA within conference as the top seed, should be regarded as favorites (though certainly not massively so) to make the finals. They did defeat the Bulls and series points diff suggests they were the better team, but in a series that, based on overall season performance and on what actually happened could have gone the other way (or GS could have won it sooner). Their other victory on route to the finals was over -1.19 SRS Seattle.
3) "Demolished" is either somewhat redundant reiterating sweep in the notion that all sweeps are "demolitions", or misleading in that a total 16 point margin over 4 games is not a demolition (especially not so for a sweep). One could easily imagine slightly different reffing calls might tilt games a couple of points either way, and if a couple go in one direction then we could be looking at a 2-2 series.
Within the finals too whilst all aspects of the game are interrelated the largest area of separation is the Warriors domination of the glass (not an area Barry significantly contributed to, at least directly). If even a reserve like Truck Robinson rebounds at his normal RS rate (10.9 per 36 rather than his finals 5.785714286) he could grab 8 more rebounds and if those aren't cannibalized (and there are plenty of would-be defensive rebounds that Washington missed) that's 8 possessions that GSW don't get another chance at a shot up or, if at the other end, the Bullets do.
I don't love the derogatory connotation around a "girly" free throw form where that is offered as a weakness then contrasted ("but") with a strength. That he may have ignored any stigma (if it were there then) would be a pro beyond the baked in fact that clearly adds value versus the alternative (even if he were, say an 83% shooter with a conventional form) it may offer a marginal intangible boost, in indicating a willingness to ignore external nonsense and image to find an advantage to win.

None of which is to say Barry isn't good or the Warriors win somehow doesn't count. I just don't find the case offered persuasive that this was a great peak.

I was being facetious about the "girly" FT shooting motion. I don't care how anyone shoots if it goes in at a high clip that's all that matters.

CharityStripe34 · Post #14 » by **CharityStripe34** » Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:06 pm

AEnigma wrote:
CharityStripe34 wrote:Draymond Green. LOL.

Yeah that was how I felt when Pettit made it in, but that is why the project is a panel effort.

Different strokes, I suppose. No harm no foul.

Samurai · Post #15 » by **Samurai** » Sun Oct 16, 2022 9:33 pm

Despite being a GSW fan, just really surprised at Draymond voted ahead of Gilmore. Wow.

1. Artis Gilmore 1975. Tremendous all-around season for a player who is often underrated. Averaged 23.6 pts/game while finishing second (behind Dr. J) in OWS. Second in offensive rebounds behind a rookie named Moses Malone. Led the league in DWS, total rebounds, total blocks, and defensive rating. Named first team All ABA, All-defensive first team, and MVP of the playoffs as he captured the only ring in his career.

2. Bob Lanier 1974. A truly great offensive player. Feathery soft jump shot and the second best hook shot in the low post that I've ever seen. Based on his shooting mechanics, I am very confident that he could have been a good 3-point shooter if he played in today's era. Also an excellent screen setter and passer; his 17.9 assist % was the second highest of his career and is comparable to the career highs of centers like Kareem and Cowens. It is defensively where Lanier struggles more, but he put together an outlier career best defensive season in 74. His 7.1 DWS was by far the best of his career and was good for third best in the league and he actually led the league in Defensive Box Plus/Minus with 2.9. He anchored the Pistons defense which was 3rd best in the league despite the team not having any other defensive stalwarts.

3. Connie Hawkins 1968. Another great season from yesteryear that if too often overlooked today. Yes, era strength is a legit concern, probably as much or more than it was for Mikan. But if not for era strength, I would have put Hawkins in before now so its a question of how much we want to continue penalizing him for it. Led the league in scoring at 26.8 ppg while playing nearly 45 minutes/game. Also led the league in PER, OWS, WS, WS/48, and TS% and finished second in rebounds/game, third in assists/game and even fourth in DWS. Was league MVP, won a ring and picked up the Playoffs MVP as well.

LA Bird · Post #16 » by **LA Bird** » Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:12 pm

Here are the results for round 41

Winner: 75 Gilmore

There were 6 voters in this round: trelos6, AEnigma, OhayoKD, 70sFan, CharityStripe34, Samurai

A total of 29 seasons received at least 1 vote: 00 Mourning, 05 Ginobili, 16 Westbrook, 17 Westbrook, 20 Butler, 21 Butler, 21 Doncic, 22 Doncic, 67 Barry, 67 Thurmond, 68 Hawkins, 69 Barry, 69 Thurmond, 71 Frazier, 72 Frazier, 73 Frazier, 74 Lanier, 74 McAdoo, 75 Barry, 75 Gilmore, 75 Lanier, 75 McAdoo, 76 Gilmore, 76 McAdoo, 82 Moncrief, 83 Moncrief, 84 Moncrief, 94 Miller, 97 Hill

Top 10 seasons: 75 Gilmore, 74 Lanier, 75 Barry, 17 Westbrook, 67 Barry, 76 Gilmore, 69 Barry, 16 Westbrook, 00 Mourning, 72 Frazier

H2H record (1 season per player)
75 Gilmore: 0.714 (10-4)
74 Lanier: 0.706 (12-5)
75 Barry: 0.385 (5-8)
17 Westbrook: 0.385 (5-8)
72 Frazier: 0.364 (4-7)
00 Mourning: 0.333 (4-8)