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BPM from 1952-1973

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2022 6:06 am
by Narigo

Re: BPM from 1952-1973

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2022 6:29 am
by LukaTheGOAT
I like it. It looks similar to Player Impact, that went from 1952-2014 (no longer around seemingly). I don't know if I am recalling correctly, but I think Bill looks a bit better than Wilt generally in Player Impact, however with BPM, it seems as if Wilt gets favored more often. Overall, I think this looks pretty darn good. Thanks, for starting a dialogue on this.

Will just say, that this stat was based off BPM 1.0.

Re: BPM from 1952-1973

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2022 4:39 pm
by wojoaderge
Tom Boerwinkle was not that good of a defensive player

Re: BPM from 1952-1973

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2022 4:56 pm
by 70sFan
wojoaderge wrote:Tom Boerwinkle was not that good of a defensive player

He was an amazing rebounder though, which is pretty much all this stat measure.

Re: BPM from 1952-1973

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2022 4:58 pm
by penbeast0
Really enjoyed looking at this, will probably come back to it several times. Agree that Boerwinkle was not very mobile nor a strong man defender generally but he was long, blocked shots, and held position well. He was also a surprisingly good passer and hit enough midrange shots to keep his man honest in Motta's high post offense. His defensive rating may be helped by playing with 4 very good man defenders that would use him as a backstop on defense; curious whether Cliff Ray's Drtgs in Chicago were equally good per minutes, haven't checked yet.

Re: BPM from 1952-1973

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2022 7:26 pm
by Cavsfansince84
The main issue I'd have with the pre 74 stuff would be lack of steals and blocks data and Wilt's vorp being that low from 1960-64 seems a bit off given how many minutes he was playing. Which obviously may be impacted by blocks/steals not being fully represented.

Re: BPM from 1952-1973

Posted: Tue Dec 6, 2022 10:10 pm
by rk2023
Thanks for sharing, I definitely see the correlation with box stats in the case of Chamberlain and Oscar. Regardless of BPM interpretation, cool work and initiative

Re: BPM from 1952-1973

Posted: Wed Dec 7, 2022 7:13 am
by SpreeS
Nice done. Is it difficult to conculate careers BPM and VORP with this data?