More Overrated Dynasty Member; Rodman or Draymond

[Red Pill Sports]

Mr. Triple Single or a guy who averaged 2 points and 8 rebounds his last two Finals with single digit rebounds 9 out of his last 12 Finals games? Which of these guys gets more credit than they deserve for their contributions to a dynasty?

[70sFan]

If you ask about Bulls Rodman, then it's definitely him. Even 2022 Green was far better player than 1997-98 Rodman.

[MyUniBroDavis]

Dray is substantially better and quite a good player but sometimes people be going crazy lol

Might be tripping but I swear there was a debate over Dray vs Curry Or something in 2016

He’s far more important to the Warriors dynasty than klay or KD were (obv KD only won 2/4 of the rings, but clearly over Klay) and is an absolute all time great defender

[Dutchball97]

Imagine being the primary playmaker and defensive anchor for a dynasty that appeared in 6 finals since 2015, winning 4 of them, and then people think you suck because you don't average over 20 ppg.

As to the thread Rodman didn't peak during his time with the Bulls, if we'd be comparing Dray to Pistons Rodman this would be a closer comparison although I'd still confidently pick Dray.

[Jaivl]

(Bulls Rodman >) Klay > Jordan > Rodman > Curry > Dray > Pippen in terms of overratedness IMO.

[HeartBreakKid]

Rodman by a lot.

[Dutchball97]

(Bulls Rodman >) Klay > Jordan > Rodman > Curry > Dray > Pippen in terms of overratedness IMO.

I'd have it Klay > Rodman > Curry > Jordan > Pippen > Dray, at least if we're talking overrated by the mainstream. Jordan is a bit overrated due to being seen as like the undisputed GOAT but most here at least have him in their GOAT tier/discussion. Meanwhile Curry is pretty much a top 10 lock now after last year's title but I haven't seen anyone here consider him that high so I feel like the discrepancy is bigger than it is for Jordan. I'd also say Dray is more underrated than Pippen because at least Pippen is acknowledged as a star player in his own right, while the narrative about Dray is too often that he's just a role player.

[HeartBreakKid]

I'd agree with Dutchball.

Pippen actually gets a lot of push despite being a defensive first player. Him being associated with one of the most popular teams of all time while also breaking the arbitrary 20 point barrier has him winning comparisons against players that other defensive players would usually lose to.

Pippen being 2nd to Jordan gives the impression that to some that he might have been the best player if not for the existence of Jordan which was and still is a ridiculous narrative. But that narrative did/does exist.

[Texas Chuck]

Glad the OP of a troll thread got banned. His thread should die as well. Threads painting players with narratives like this are never serious topics.

[picko]

Dray is a greater contributor to the Warriors overall success than Rodman was for the Bulls. That said, I think you can make a reasonable argument that Rodman was the MVP of the 1995-96 finals. His offensive rebounding - almost 7 a game including 11 in game six - helped offset some terrible shooting percentages from Jordan / Pippen. The Bulls won the series quite easily, despite the Sonics consistently shooting the ball better from the field and getting to the line more often.

He was largely ineffective in both 1996-97 and 1997-98 though.

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

I voted Rodman but would have voted neither if that was an option. Rodman was not overrated and Draymond is not overrated.