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2 All-Time Teams Enter a Playoff Semi-Final!!! (Semi-Final 1)

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:53 am
by OhayoKD
-> 2023 Rules
-> Every player has had an off-season and regular season to adapt
-> Seeding is based on prior voting
-> Higher seed gets home-court

1st Seed
Price/Kobe/Klay/Giannis/Wilt
Lowry/Kidd/Drexler/Malone/Embiid


4th seed
Nash/Mullin/Erving/Garnett/Robinson
Penny/Vince/Marques/Rashard/Reed


Who wins?

How many games?

Re: 2 All-Time Teams Enter a Playoff Semi-Final!!! (Semi-Final 1)

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:19 am
by Dutchball97
Curious how team 2 ended up as the 4th seed, I voted for them last time and I prefer them again in this match up.

Re: 2 All-Time Teams Enter a Playoff Semi-Final!!! (Semi-Final 1)

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:34 am
by OhayoKD
Dutchball97 wrote:Curious how team 2 ended up as the 4th seed, I voted for them last time and I prefer them again in this match up.

They got 1 vote in the regular season thread :dontknow:

Re: 2 All-Time Teams Enter a Playoff Semi-Final!!! (Semi-Final 1)

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:37 am
by Dutchball97
OhayoKD wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:Curious how team 2 ended up as the 4th seed, I voted for them last time and I prefer them again in this match up.

They got 1 vote in the regular season thread :dontknow:


But they won 5-1 against the team with Magic and Duncan?

Re: 2 All-Time Teams Enter a Playoff Semi-Final!!! (Semi-Final 1)

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 9:40 am
by OhayoKD
Dutchball97 wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:Curious how team 2 ended up as the 4th seed, I voted for them last time and I prefer them again in this match up.

They got 1 vote in the regular season thread :dontknow:


But they won 5-1 against the team with Magic and Duncan?

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=103569889#p103569889

put them in a play-in because i forgot a team.

Re: 2 All-Time Teams Enter a Playoff Semi-Final!!! (Semi-Final 1)

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:10 am
by Dutchball97
OhayoKD wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:They got 1 vote in the regular season thread :dontknow:


But they won 5-1 against the team with Magic and Duncan?

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=103569889#p103569889

put them in a play-in because i forgot a team.


Right, makes sense. Still surprising though team 1 got the most votes and is now getting trampled by a team getting 1 vote at first.

Re: 2 All-Time Teams Enter a Playoff Semi-Final!!! (Semi-Final 1)

Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:55 am
by OhayoKD
Dutchball97 wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:
Dutchball97 wrote:
But they won 5-1 against the team with Magic and Duncan?

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?p=103569889#p103569889

put them in a play-in because i forgot a team.


Right, makes sense. Still surprising though team 1 got the most votes and is now getting trampled by a team getting 1 vote at first.

Might just be different voting blocs? These are fairly small samples(rs thread got 8 votes, play-in 6, 3 right now). As I'm sure you're aware, there are different philosophies around era-translation and even guys like Kobe and Wilt are polarizing here.

The argument against team 4 would probably goes something like, there's only 2 people here shooting 3's, all these guys get worse now(i imagine erving/mullin would be the premier targets) and team 1 is a modern offense where even a bunch guy like embid hitting 3's like he does is a big shock for some of the opposing players on the rosters. Like my bet would be even a klay-thompson is a big WTF for players 2 decades or 3 back but if you do era-translation the "drop them from birth at another point" you get completely different outcomes.

There's also just how you see wilt/giannis. Do you boost Giannis for being arguably the best player in the most talented incarnation of the league, do you see wilt as the best era-relative ever? How generous are you with wilt translating forward? Do you give him suped up gasol/bam/noah passing? Do you say he doesn't move fluidly enough and drops a peg?

How do you see erving and the aba? ect.

I'm pretty strict with era-translation so to me team 4 might just get shot to oblivion, but many people are more generous with older folk than I am.

I did specify "they have an off-season to adapt" to try and narrow the framework down, but I wouldn't be shocked if most voters ignored that.