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Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:48 pm
by dygaction
PG: LeBron
SG: Curry
SF: Kawhi
PF: Durant
C: AD

6th: Harden

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:55 pm
by Vox Populi
dygaction wrote:PG: LeBron
SG: Curry
SF: Kawhi
PF: Durant
C: AD

6th: Harden

PG: Payton
SG: MJ
SF: Pippen
PF: Hakeem
Ce: Shaq

6th: Reggie

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:58 pm
by Vox Populi
dygaction wrote:PG: LeBron
SG: Curry
SF: Kawhi
PF: Durant
C: AD

6th: Harden

PG: Kidd
SG: Kobe
SF: Lebron
PF: Dirk
Ce: Garnett

6th: McGrady

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:59 pm
by dygaction
Vox Populi wrote:
dygaction wrote:PG: LeBron
SG: Curry
SF: Kawhi
PF: Durant
C: AD

6th: Harden

PG: Payton
SG: MJ
SF: Pippen
PF: Hakeem
Ce: Shaq

6th: Reggie


I tend to take Shaq in the 00s but that's ok. Do you think they have enough spacing for current games?

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 12:04 am
by Vox Populi
dygaction wrote:
Vox Populi wrote:
dygaction wrote:PG: LeBron
SG: Curry
SF: Kawhi
PF: Durant
C: AD

6th: Harden

PG: Payton
SG: MJ
SF: Pippen
PF: Hakeem
Ce: Shaq

6th: Reggie


I tend to take Shaq in the 00s but that's ok. Do you think they have enough spacing for current games?

Well, Shaq entered the league in 1992. He had more good years in the 1990s than the 2000s.

The hope is they will be too physically dominant in the paint for spacing to affect the outcome. Either way, it should be a great game!

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 12:37 am
by penbeast0
All healthy:

Embiid
Giannis
Tatum
Leonard
Curry

6th Doncic

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:43 am
by AEnigma
That team has a massive shooting advantage over nearly any other team and is not sacrificing much defensively. But defence is probably your best bet at overcoming them, provided you manage to maintain a respectably modern offensive structure.

2000s: Lebron/Kobe/Manu/Garnett/Duncan; I think this “sixth man” idea is odd, but I guess you could do Shaq is you just want talent, or maybe Ray Allen if the idea is that basically all six players are on the court for forty minutes a game.

1990s: shooting is getting limited, but maybe Stockton/Reggie/Jordan/Hakeem/Robinson could work if you beg Stockton to do a Mark Price impression; sixth man, assuming the same additional shooting emphasis applies, maybe Mitch Richmond? Joe Dumars? Really struggling to maintain spacing, collective talent, and a coherent rotation (not a lot of talented forwards who could shoot in this era). In general I do not think this era is well-suited to any modern adaptation, and that is even truer for prior decades.

2020s: well, good news is you can keep pretty much the same list of players. Bad news is that basically all of them are worse versions (save for bubble Davis). Maybe swap Harden for Giannis or Embiid and hope that is enough, but realistically the 2010s team never needed to choose Harden either (not having another big feels pretty irresponsible, especially if the goal is that 40 minutes a game distribution).

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:42 am
by 70sFan
1970s rules!

Walt Frazier
John Havlicek
Julius Erving
Bob McAdoo
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Bill Walton

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:09 am
by Jaivl
AEnigma wrote:1990s: shooting is getting limited but maybe Stockton/Reggie/Jordan/Hakeem/Robinson could work if you beg Stockton to do a Mark Price impression; sixth man, assuming the same additional shooting emphasis applies, maybe Mitch Richmond? Joe Dumars?

I would just take late Magic and put Price in as the sixth man. Otherwise that's just too small or a backcourt.

70sFan wrote:1970s rules!

Walt Frazier
John Havlicek
Julius Erving
Bob McAdoo
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Bill Walton

Frazier and Walton got the outfit contest on lock, that's for sure.

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 8:42 am
by rand
I'd take 2000s over 2010s despite the poor spacing.

2006 Wade
2009 Kobe
2009 LeBron
2004 KG
2000 Shaq

6th: 2003 Duncan

2020s is probably the strongest for current rule IMO.

2022 Curry
2021 Kawhi
2020 LeBron
2021 Giannis
2023 Jokic

6th: 2023 Tatum

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 9:06 am
by OhayoKD
Giannis-AD(2020)-Curry-Lebron(2020)-Kawhi(2020) could do it I think

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 9:08 am
by OhayoKD
AEnigma wrote:That team has a massive shooting advantage over nearly any other team and is not sacrificing that much defensively. But defence is probably your best bet at overcoming them, provided manage to maintain a respectably modern offensive structure.

2000s: Lebron/Kobe/Manu/Garnett/Duncan; I think this “sixth man” idea is odd, but I guess you could do Shaq is you just want talent, or Chris Paul if the idea is that basically all six players on on court for forty minutes a game.

1990s: shooting is getting limited but maybe Stockton/Reggie/Jordan/Hakeem/Robinson could work if you beg Stockton to do a Mark Price impression; sixth man, assuming the same additional shooting emphasis applies, maybe Mitch Richmond? Joe Dumars? Really struggling to maintain spacing, collective talent, and a coherent rotation (not a lot of talented forwards who could shoot in this era). In general I do not think this era is well-suited to any modern adaptation, and that is even truer for prior decades.

2020s: well, good news is you can keep pretty much the same list of players. Bad news is that basically all of them are worse versions (save for bubble Davis). Maybe swap Harden for Giannis or Embiid and hope that is enough, but realistically the 2010s team never needed to choose Harden either (not having another big feels pretty irresponsible, especially if the goal is that 40 minutes a game distribution).

Is it a matter of fact that Kawhi was worse in 2020/2021? You also have strong prime-level years for Lebron and Curry not to mention peak Giannis, Jokic, and yeah, bubble Davis. Don't think 2020 team "needs" harden either but they have the best version imo

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 9:09 am
by dygaction
70sFan wrote:1970s rules!

Walt Frazier
John Havlicek
Julius Erving
Bob McAdoo
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Bill Walton


No matter when and what rules, 70s just too small/slow and too poor shooting besides KAJ... 50 yrs of modern sports evolution and training it is a different game. You may need to combine 60s and 70s and use 60s rule hoping modern players cannot adjust quick enough to steal a game or two.

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 11:10 am
by 70sFan
dygaction wrote:
70sFan wrote:1970s rules!

Walt Frazier
John Havlicek
Julius Erving
Bob McAdoo
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Bill Walton


No matter when and what rules, 70s just too small/slow and too poor shooting besides KAJ... 50 yrs of modern sports evolution and training it is a different game. You may need to combine 60s and 70s and use 60s rule hoping modern players cannot adjust quick enough to steal a game or two.

This team isn't small, isn't slow and isn't poor shooting.

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 2:37 pm
by AEnigma
Jaivl wrote:
AEnigma wrote:1990s: shooting is getting limited but maybe Stockton/Reggie/Jordan/Hakeem/Robinson could work if you beg Stockton to do a Mark Price impression; sixth man, assuming the same additional shooting emphasis applies, maybe Mitch Richmond? Joe Dumars?

I would just take late Magic and put Price in as the sixth man. Otherwise that's just too small or a backcourt.

I guess you can beg Magic to take threes too, but this is one of the rare instances where I think Stockton is appropriate: bare minimum scoring load + please distribute to these four other scorers and hound the opposing point guard.

Regardless, it is not an era that lends itself well to the game today. It is a worse frontcourt pairing than the 2000s with worse overall spacing and perimetre defence however you organise it.

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 2:59 pm
by penbeast0
Or put Magic at the 2 where he doesn't have to guard small quick guys and play him next to Stockton like Magic's early years next to Norm Nixon.

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 3:03 pm
by penbeast0
dygaction wrote:
70sFan wrote:1970s rules!

Walt Frazier
John Havlicek
Julius Erving
Bob McAdoo
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Bill Walton


No matter when and what rules, 70s just too small/slow and too poor shooting besides KAJ... 50 yrs of modern sports evolution and training it is a different game. You may need to combine 60s and 70s and use 60s rule hoping modern players cannot adjust quick enough to steal a game or two.


Slow you might be able to argue, though that also might be a factor of shoes, training, etc. rather than actual speed. Size?

Frazier is 6'5, Havlicek 6'6, Erving 6'7, MacAdoo 6'9, Kareem 7'2, Walton 6'11 and possible a little taller if any of those players are listed at their sock feet size; I don't remember what year the NBA switched over to measuring in shoes which add an inch or two . . . .That's not a small team in any iteration of the NBA.

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 4:17 pm
by Dutchball97
A 2000s team oriented around spacing might work.

PG: Nash
SG: Kobe
SF: LeBron
PF: Dirk
C: KG

Moving KG to the 4 and putting in Shaq or Duncan at the 5 to get a big advantage inside is another option although I'd maybe also swap out Kobe for Reggie Miller to keep the spacing a bit more competetive.

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 6:53 pm
by dygaction
70sFan wrote:
dygaction wrote:
70sFan wrote:1970s rules!

Walt Frazier
John Havlicek
Julius Erving
Bob McAdoo
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Bill Walton


No matter when and what rules, 70s just too small/slow and too poor shooting besides KAJ... 50 yrs of modern sports evolution and training it is a different game. You may need to combine 60s and 70s and use 60s rule hoping modern players cannot adjust quick enough to steal a game or two.

This team isn't small, isn't slow and isn't poor shooting.


It is compared to Kawhi/LeBron/KD, 3 out 5 are small, they are not bad in shooting until compared to Steph/KD/Kawhi/LeBron/AD

Re: Current rule, any decade team beats 2010s best?

Posted: Wed Feb 1, 2023 7:32 pm
by 70sFan
dygaction wrote:
70sFan wrote:
dygaction wrote:
No matter when and what rules, 70s just too small/slow and too poor shooting besides KAJ... 50 yrs of modern sports evolution and training it is a different game. You may need to combine 60s and 70s and use 60s rule hoping modern players cannot adjust quick enough to steal a game or two.

This team isn't small, isn't slow and isn't poor shooting.


It is compared to Kawhi/LeBron/KD, 3 out 5 are small, they are not bad in shooting until compared to Steph/KD/Kawhi/LeBron/AD

How is Julius small compared to Kawhi? Can you explain that to me?

AD would be literally the worst shooter out of 1970s, probably with the exception of Kareem.