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Again, choose your season. I personally think it has to be 2017 with only 2016 as a possible alternative.

I think Jokic, Giannis and Curry are definitely above him but he's in the 4-8 range in the mix with Embiid, Doncic, Tatum, Durant and LeBron.

I don't understand the love for Curry here. With him GSW are 20w-18l, without him, they are 12w-12l, really not a small sample size. Not like his advanced stats are an outlier compared to others either.

2016 is his peak for me.

I'd take him at #6 I think. Wouldn't hesitate taking Jokic, Giannis and Curry over him. Embiid and Doncic give me some pause. Ardee's mentions are arguable too.

De'Aaron Fox can trick some people into thinking he's top 10, and Westbrook is strictly better.

dygaction wrote:I don't understand the love for Curry here. With him GSW are 20w-18l, without him, they are 12w-12l, really not a small sample size. Not like his advanced stats are an outlier compared to others either.

For me it's a "still not declined until proven otherwise" thing + Check the point differential, W/L underrates his impact (+2 on games Curry plays / -2.5 on games Curry sits, not considering purely on court which is of course higher than +2, and that's playing a weaker schedule without him, with key injuries to rivals)

dygaction wrote:I don't understand the love for Curry here. With him GSW are 20w-18l, without him, they are 12w-12l, really not a small sample size. Not like his advanced stats are an outlier compared to others either.

The man won the title in dominant fashion as an individual last year and has been even better when healthy this year despite some of the problems his teammates have had.

Quite honestly, I think the 4-6 range is more fair, leaning more towards 4. Don't think I could take current Durant, LeBron or Tatum over MVP Russ.

I don't see what Luka is doing this year as THAT different from what Russ did in 2017.

Between 4-10. I could see real arguments for a lot of players [Lillard, Butler, Tatum, Jokic, Giannis, Embiid, Luka, Curry, Durant]