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Where would peak Dr.J rank in todays league?

Top 10 sounds harsh to a legend but the current league is just too talented

Definitely inside top 10, given all the injuries we have I can see him inside top 3 with Giannis and Jokic, though I guess Embiid and Doncic have reasonable cases over him and Tatum is a wildcard. Curry is there as well, although he missed too much time for me to consider him.

That gives us top 6 at worst, but realisitcally more like top 3.

70sFan wrote:Definitely inside top 10, given all the injuries we have I can see him inside top 3 with Giannis and Jokic, though I guess Embiid and Doncic have reasonable cases over him and Tatum is a wildcard. Curry is there as well, although he missed too much time for me to consider him.

That gives us top 6 at worst, but realisitcally more like top 3.

Then there are also hypothetical healthy Durant/LeBron/AD/Kawhi

dygaction wrote:

70sFan wrote:Definitely inside top 10, given all the injuries we have I can see him inside top 3 with Giannis and Jokic, though I guess Embiid and Doncic have reasonable cases over him and Tatum is a wildcard. Curry is there as well, although he missed too much time for me to consider him.

That gives us top 6 at worst, but realisitcally more like top 3.

Then there are also hypothetical healthy Durant/LeBron/AD/Kawhi

Durant is on pace to play ~50 games and I don't see him as better than peak Julius.

LeBron is on pace to play ~60 games and he misses time right now. I also struggle to see James as better than peak Julius at this point.

Davis played even less games than Durant and outside of a brief moment a few months ago, he's just not that good. Since he came back, I don't even see him as all-nba level player in the last month.

Kawhi is not close.

I think people should pay more attention to missed games. Even if you think that Durant is more valuable player than Julius, 30 games advantage is a massive value for your team.

70sFan wrote:

dygaction wrote:

70sFan wrote:Definitely inside top 10, given all the injuries we have I can see him inside top 3 with Giannis and Jokic, though I guess Embiid and Doncic have reasonable cases over him and Tatum is a wildcard. Curry is there as well, although he missed too much time for me to consider him.

That gives us top 6 at worst, but realisitcally more like top 3.

Then there are also hypothetical healthy Durant/LeBron/AD/Kawhi

Durant is on pace to play ~50 games and I don't see him as better than peak Julius.

LeBron is on pace to play ~60 games and he misses time right now. I also struggle to see James as better than peak Julius at this point.

Davis played even less games than Durant and outside of a brief moment a few months ago, he's just not that good. Since he came back, I don't even see him as all-nba level player in the last month.

Kawhi is not close.

A comparison like this I think it has to be in a vacuum assuming everyone is healthy and at current competitive level. For example, we can assume this same question was asked at the beginning of the season.

dygaction wrote:

70sFan wrote:

dygaction wrote:
Then there are also hypothetical healthy Durant/LeBron/AD/Kawhi

Durant is on pace to play ~50 games and I don't see him as better than peak Julius.

LeBron is on pace to play ~60 games and he misses time right now. I also struggle to see James as better than peak Julius at this point.

Davis played even less games than Durant and outside of a brief moment a few months ago, he's just not that good. Since he came back, I don't even see him as all-nba level player in the last month.

Kawhi is not close.

A comparison like this I think it has to be in a vacuum assuming everyone is healthy and at current competitive level. For example, we can assume this same question was asked at the beginning of the season.

We can't assume that current Kawhi is healthy, he hasn't been healthy in years. Same with AD and even Durant. That's the whole point.

Anyway, I don't see any case for "healthy" Kawhi or AD either way. They are not on peak Julius level anyway.

I think I'd only take Jokic over him at this point in the season. I see him as a comparable player to Giannis. Top 3.