Michael Redd vs Rashard Lewis

[durantbird]

Slightly different positions, both late pickups in their drafts, who is the overall better player in a single peak season?

[dooki667]

For single year I think 05-06 Redd takes this. 89 games played that year 25.4 pts on good efficiency 57.4 ts% Anything more than a two year comparison. I'm taking Rashard.

[IdolW0rm]

Lewis. His 08/09 season in Orlando was excellent. Also, extremely well liked by RAPM (+5.45) and even by the more recent impact/box-score hybrid metrics like EPM.
He was just the better more impactful player.
Both amazing shooters. Redd's shot mechanics was as smooth as they come.

[ronnymac2]

Redd was such a good shooter that they put him on the 2008 Redeem Team for that particular skill. He was deadly. 362-game prime averaged 24 PPG on an 8.6% TOV Rate and solid foul draw for a jump shooter. 37% 3-point shooter on high volume.

Fair to call his peak in 2006 when he ripped the #5 defense in DET up in the playoffs for 27 PPG on 65% TS with just 2 TOVs per game. Not giving much defensively or as a playmaker.

Rashard has a 369-game prime providing 20 PPG with a 9.9% TOV Rate and less foul draw. He's a near 40 percent 3-point shooter on similar volume. I do believe he is a superior defender.

We can call 2009 his peak. He was perhaps the best offensive player on an Orlando squad that went 24 games deep into the playoffs. His Finals performance was underwhelming, but Lamar Odom is an ideal defender in that matchup.

I think I'd prefer Rashard's peak. SF/PF who could take closeout defenders off the dribble, shoot 3's, and not be taken advantage of in most matchups at PF vs. a SG who shoots and scores really well but doesn't provide much else and might be a negative defender.

Just FYI, Rashard and Ray Allen led the #2 offense in the league in 2005 on the 52-win Sonics. Top-5 in 3-point shooting and eFG%, #2 in offensive rebounding thanks to Reggie Evans, Danny Forton, and Nick Collison. Sick squad.

[penbeast0]

Rashard also gave you the ability to play 4 out with his size using him at the PF. That was relatively rare and we've seen the effect of the extra spacing on offenses in the modern game.

[Blame Rasho]

I think it is pretty unbelievable how their paths evolved. Redd wasn’t even a good shooter in college. He was just a scorer, but after Allen left he took the ball and ran with it. He made himself an elite shooter. You would never think of him as a guy who would become an Olympian if you saw him play.

Lewis had by far the longest wait in the Green Room when he got drafted. Just imagine talking to all these first rounders, have your agent tell you that you are lock, the NBA telling you as well and then falling to 2nd round. I remember him crying when he got drafted. He got his niche in Seattle and then the Magic. He was the ideal 4 in todays game.

I think people overlook how these 2nd rounders became stars. If anything I might side with Lewis due to his versatility that he has to play 3/4.

[GrindCityHustle]

Redd was a true success story. Scrub that became an all star

Lewis just fell too much. He was a lottery pick and was one of many times NBA scouts got it wrong.

[Ambrose]

I came in here easily thinking Redd but people have made a pretty solid case for Lewis.

[Cavsfansince84]

I'm going to push back a bit on people calling Redd a scrub or a guy who couldn't shoot early on at all. I say this because I'm an Ohio St fan who watched a ton of his games when he was in college and sort of followed his nba career. He had good size and decent athleticism and was B10 freshman of the year when he averaged like 22-23ppg. So at that point he seemed like he was going to become a top 10 pick but then Scoonie Penn transferred over and the offense became very balanced and his ppg went down his next two years which I think affected his draft status. He was always a gifted scorer though in terms of what he could do. It's also very common for 2nd picks to not get much play time their first few years because most coaches favor playing vets anyhow. So he definitely did work very hard on his shooting to become a star but the size and overall ability were always there since he was a freshman in college.

[Blame Rasho]

Shooting 65% from free throw line says you are a bad shooter.

Shooting 31% from three says you can’t shoot the three.

It really isn’t that hard to grasp.

[Cavsfansince84]

Shooting 65% from free throw line says you are a bad shooter.

Shooting 31% from three says you can’t shoot the three.

It really isn’t that hard to grasp.

He shot 78% from the line his last year at osu and was at 80-85% for almost his whole nba career. Also if the 3 isn't a priority(and it really wasn't back in the 90's) then a guy won't practice it as much. So make of it however you see fit to.

[Blame Rasho]

Shooting 65% from free throw line says you are a bad shooter.

Shooting 31% from three says you can’t shoot the three.

It really isn’t that hard to grasp.

He shot 78% from the line his last year at osu and was at 80-85% for almost his whole nba career. Also if the 3 isn't a priority(and it really wasn't back in the 90's) then a guy won't practice it as much. So make of it however you see fit to.

Omg he shot 78% his last year, but he also shot 61% on more free throw attempts the previous two years.

You are wrong, he wasn’t known as a shooter. He was a scorer first and foremost. He evolved into an elite shooter while in the nba.

[Cavsfansince84]

Omg he shot 78% his last year, but he also shot 61% on more free throw attempts the previous two years.

You are wrong, he wasn’t known as a shooter. He was a scorer first and foremost. He evolved into an elite shooter while in the nba.

What I actually said was the following dude: "I'm going to push back a bit on people calling Redd a scrub or a guy who couldn't shoot early on at all". I didn't say he was some great shooter early on. What I specifically said was that he came into the league with good all around scoring ability. Also, as I already said his ft% the year before and though his entire nba career was good. So its obvious it had improved by the time he came into the nba. Everything you are choosing to read into what I have written in this thread is on you and is more a reflection of some need you have to argue than any desire to actually reply to what I am writing. What happened is he was playing behind Ray Allen and Sam Cassell so got stuck on the bench.

[HeartBreakKid]

Shooting 65% from free throw line says you are a bad shooter.

Shooting 31% from three says you can’t shoot the three.

It really isn’t that hard to grasp.

He shot 78% from the line his last year at osu and was at 80-85% for almost his whole nba career. Also if the 3 isn't a priority(and it really wasn't back in the 90's) then a guy won't practice it as much. So make of it however you see fit to.

Omg he shot 78% his last year, but he also shot 61% on more free throw attempts the previous two years.

You are wrong, he wasn’t known as a shooter. He was a scorer first and foremost. He evolved into an elite shooter while in the nba.

78% is pretty standard. I mean his job wasn't to stand around and shoot spot ups but it wasn't the most surprising thing in the world he had a good jump shot. His first real season in the NBA he shot free throws fine.