Which franchise has the best 15 man roster minutes evenly distributed.

KobesScarf · Post #1 » by **KobesScarf** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:54 am

Am I crazy for thinking the Pistons might have a more complete and balanced team than the Lakers and Celtics with every player restricted to 16 minutes

Laimbeer
Rodman
Hill
Hamilton
Isiah

B.Wallace
R.Wallace
Dantley
Dumars
Bing

Lainer
Debusschere
Aguirre
Houston
Billups

ardee · Post #2 » by **ardee** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:52 am

If you're using every player who ever wore the jersey....

Magic
Kobe
LeBron
Davis
Kareem

Cooper
West
Baylor
Pau
Shaq

Nixon
Scott
Worthy
Odom
Wilt

DEFINITELY still the Lakers.

SpreeS · Post #3 » by **SpreeS** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:06 am

I could balance all 3 units other way

Wilt
Webber
Mullin
Sprewell
Hardaway

Bogut
Green
Wiggs
Klay
Curry

Thrumond
Durant
Barry
Richmond
Arenas

KobesScarf · Post #4 » by **KobesScarf** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:27 pm

ardee wrote:If you're using every player who ever wore the jersey....

Magic
Kobe
LeBron
Davis
Kareem

Cooper
West
Baylor
Pau
Shaq

Nixon
Scott
Worthy
Odom
Wilt

DEFINITELY still the Lakers.

I feel like the Pistons are so much more balanced

Post #5 » by **penbeast0** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:52 pm

I misunderstood this, I was thinking you were asking if we took today's rosters and gave the 11-15 men on the roster equal time with the starters and 6-10 guys, who has the best roster.

And, I was despairing because although I enjoy watching basketball, I couldn't tell you the 11-15 guys on any team other than my own.

Colbinii · Post #6 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:03 pm

KobesScarf wrote:
ardee wrote:If you're using every player who ever wore the jersey....

Magic
Kobe
LeBron
Davis
Kareem

Cooper
West
Baylor
Pau
Shaq

Nixon
Scott
Worthy
Odom
Wilt

DEFINITELY still the Lakers.
I feel like the Pistons are so much more balanced

Can you clarify and/or expand what you are attempting to say here.

As I understand, I would take the Lakers 1st, 2nd and 3rd line-ups over the Pistons.

What do you mean by balanced?

Narigo · Post #7 » by **Narigo** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 7:57 pm

Gilmore
Grant
Pippen
Jordan
Rose

Noah
Rodman
Walker
Butler
Van Lier

Boerwinkle
Love
Deng
Sloan
Hinrich

Buckets22 · Post #8 » by **Buckets22** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:49 pm

The Lakers are too much at the 5 - Shaq, Wilt and Kareem is BBQ chicken alert...Maybe I'd throw in West/Goodrich pair and Nash/Eddie Jones in the 2nd and 3rd lineup to go along Magic/Kobe.

Maybe Philly?
Wilt/Moses/Embiid
Barkley/Schayes(or move Embiid here and plug Mutombo at C)/McGinnis
Dr.J/Bobby Jones/Cunningham
Chet Walker/Jimmy Buckets/Harden
AI3/Mo Cheeks/Andrew Toney

Colbinii · Post #9 » by **Colbinii** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:19 pm

Celtics are stacked

Johnson
Jones
Havlicek
Garnett
Cowens

Cousy
Tatum
Pierce
Horford
Russell

Johnson
Allen
Bird
McHale
Parish

Post #10 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:38 pm

C - Wilt, Moses, Embiid
PF - Barkley, Cunningham, Bobby Jones
SF - Dr J, Butler, Iggy
SG - Iverson, Greer, Hawkins
PG - Harden, Jrue, Cheeks

If I split into 3 lineups of equal playing time I think I'd go...

Embiid
Barkley
Butler
Greer
Cheeks

Moses
Jones
Dr J
Hawkins
Harden

Wilt
Cunningham
Iggy
Iverson
Jrue

Post #11 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:48 pm

Buckets22 wrote:The Lakers are too much at the 5 - Shaq, Wilt and Kareem is BBQ chicken alert...Maybe I'd throw in West/Goodrich pair and Nash/Eddie Jones in the 2nd and 3rd lineup to go along Magic/Kobe.

Maybe Philly?
Wilt/Moses/Embiid
Barkley/Schayes(or move Embiid here and plug Mutombo at C)/McGinnis
Dr.J/Bobby Jones/Cunningham
Chet Walker/Jimmy Buckets/Harden
AI3/Mo Cheeks/Andrew Toney

I left out Schayes because the only season he played for Philly (when it was actually Philly) was the last year of his career. I was split on Hawkins vs Toney and was compelled by recency bias to include Iggy/Jrue over McGinnis/Walker (partly because of fit). I like your list though as it pays justice to the oft forgotten old timers

Post #12 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:59 pm

Pacers might go something like...

C - Hibbert / Sabonis / Turner
PF - O'Neal / Schrempf / West
SF - George / Artest / Granger
SG - Reggie / Dipo / Hield
PG - Haliburton / Buse / Jackson

Hibbert
West
Granger
Reggie
Jackson

Turner
Schrempf
Artest
Dipo
Haliburton

Sabonis
O'Neal
George
Hield
Buse

Post #13 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:09 pm

I could do this all day but I'll do one more before I throw in the towel... Blazers:

C - Walton / Aldridge / Sabonis
PF - Sheed / Buck Williams / Uncle Cliffy
SF - Drexler / Pippen / Kersey
SG - Roy / McCollum / Steve Smith
PG - Lillard / Porter / Hollins

Walton
Cliff
Kersey
Roy
Porter

Aldridge
Buck Williams
Pippen
Smith
Lillard

Sabonis
Sheed
Drexler
McCollum
Hollins

Buckets22 · Post #14 » by **Buckets22** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:10 pm

GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Buckets22 wrote:The Lakers are too much at the 5 - Shaq, Wilt and Kareem is BBQ chicken alert...Maybe I'd throw in West/Goodrich pair and Nash/Eddie Jones in the 2nd and 3rd lineup to go along Magic/Kobe.

Maybe Philly?
Wilt/Moses/Embiid
Barkley/Schayes(or move Embiid here and plug Mutombo at C)/McGinnis
Dr.J/Bobby Jones/Cunningham
Chet Walker/Jimmy Buckets/Harden
AI3/Mo Cheeks/Andrew Toney

I left out Schayes because the only season he played for Philly (when it was actually Philly) was the last year of his career. I was split on Hawkins vs Toney and was compelled by recency bias to include Iggy/Jrue over McGinnis/Walker (partly because of fit). I like your list though as it pays justice to the oft forgotten old timers

Yea, Schayes was interesting. I want to put Embiid at PF and Mt. Mutombo and C but didn't want to seem like cheating.
For the PF McGinnis has to be over Iggy, you put Iggy in there against 6'9+ PFs and he is done. I imagine Rasheed running a fadeaway right over him all day long... Maybe he can find a place on the SG or SF roster as designated defender bumping Cunningham or Jones? I Like where Harden is for SG, with both Cunningham and McGinnis on the forwards and Mutombo manning the middle, maybe switch Toney and Cheeks to give the extra jumpshot on the second team?

Post #15 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:14 pm

Buckets22 wrote:
GeorgeMarcus wrote:
Buckets22 wrote:The Lakers are too much at the 5 - Shaq, Wilt and Kareem is BBQ chicken alert...Maybe I'd throw in West/Goodrich pair and Nash/Eddie Jones in the 2nd and 3rd lineup to go along Magic/Kobe.

Maybe Philly?
Wilt/Moses/Embiid
Barkley/Schayes(or move Embiid here and plug Mutombo at C)/McGinnis
Dr.J/Bobby Jones/Cunningham
Chet Walker/Jimmy Buckets/Harden
AI3/Mo Cheeks/Andrew Toney

I left out Schayes because the only season he played for Philly (when it was actually Philly) was the last year of his career. I was split on Hawkins vs Toney and was compelled by recency bias to include Iggy/Jrue over McGinnis/Walker (partly because of fit). I like your list though as it pays justice to the oft forgotten old timers

Yea, Schayes was interesting. I want to put Embiid at PF and Mt. Mutombo and C but didn't want to seem like cheating.
For the PF McGinnis has to be over Iggy, you put Iggy in there against 6'9+ PFs and he is done. I imagine Rasheed running a fadeaway right over him all day long... Maybe he can find a place on the SG or SF roster as designated defender bumping Cunningham or Jones? I Like where Harden is for SG, with both Cunningham and McGinnis on the forwards and Mutombo manning the middle, maybe switch Toney and Cheeks to give the extra jumpshot on the second team?

I actually put Jones at the 4, which made room for Iggy at the 3. I kind of already considered Jones a PF but in the context of modern spacing I didn't think he could be utilized as a true wing. Otherwise I'd totally agree about McGinnis over Iggy at the 4

ardee · Post #16 » by **ardee** » Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:33 pm

I didn't even realize the idea was 3 balanced lineups, not just a 1st/2nd/3rd team. The Lakers look even better then.

Cooper
Kobe
Worthy
Odom
Shaq

Goodrich
Jones
LeBron
Davis
Wilt

Magic
West
Baylor
Pau
Kareem

3 separate teams all built around the three great duos: Kobe/Shaq, LeBron/AD and Magic/Kareem, with other legends like West, Baylor and Wilt sprinkled in.

Post #17 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:11 am

Bucks:

C: Kareem, Bogut, Lopez
PF: Giannis, Cummings, Baker
SF: Dandridge, Middleton, Big Dog
SG: Ray, Redd, Pressey
PG: Moncrief, Jrue, Cassell

Kareem
Cummings
Robinson
Pressey
Cassell

Lopez
Giannis
Middleton
Redd
Moncrief

Bogut
Baker
Dandridge
Ray
Jrue

Post #18 » by **penbeast0** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:42 am

GeorgeMarcus wrote:C - Wilt, Moses, Embiid
PF - Barkley, Cunningham, Bobby Jones
SF - Dr J, Butler, Iggy
SG - Iverson, Greer, Hawkins
PG - Harden, Jrue, Cheeks

If I split into 3 lineups of equal playing time I think I'd go...

Embiid
Barkley
Butler
Greer
Cheeks

Moses
Jones
Dr J
Hawkins
Harden

Wilt
Cunningham
Iggy
Iverson
Jrue

Assuming we aren't taking length of career into account, I'd have Toney at the 2 over either Iverson or Hawkins. Cunningham played his best years in Philly as a 3 (returning from the ABA), Iggy can move to 2, also ahead of Hersey Hawkin. Then you have room for Dolph Schayes who would be a great 3 and D player (85% career FT% and known for outside range imply that he could be a good 3 point shooter) at the 4.

Post #19 » by **penbeast0** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:45 am

Not a strong franchise but . . . . Washington, grouped more by era than by best to worst.

Unseld
Hayes
Dandridge
Chenier
K. Porter

Ruland/Moses
Gus Johnson
B. King
J. Malone
Wall

Porzingis
Webber
Butler
Beal
Arenas

Post #20 » by **GeorgeMarcus** » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:11 am

Suns

C: Amar'e, Ayton, Adams
PF: Barkley, Durant, Chambers
SF: Marion, Bridges, Majerle
SG: Booker, Hornacek, JJ
PG: Nash, Kidd, Paul

Amar'e
Durant
Marion
Hornacek
Nash

Adams
Chambers
Bridges
Booker
Kidd

Ayton
Barkley
Majerle
JJ
Paul