Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West

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Will the winner of MEM/LA win the West?

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Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#1 » by OhayoKD » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:33 am

Wanna see how this hot-take is received. Honestly had Memphis as the outright favorites before their big-rotation got injured, but without collins and adams I think the Lakers have a shot.

I think the biggest factor is going to be whether or not JJJ can stay on the court. The Grizzlies are 50ish wins without Ja. They're .500 without Jackson Jr. I think JJJ is probably their most valuable player per possession. With adams and collins, I think Grizzlies could survive playing AD without Jackson. Without, JJJ really can't afford to be playing 30 minutes a game.

If Memphis survive I don't think any of the other Western teams have the personell to punish Memphis that well.

If the Lakers survive, Lebron and Davis are a clear step up from the top-end of significantly shallower opponents. The Suns are considered the favorites, but they're in a similar place in terms of depth as the Lakers and Lebron is better than Durant to me and Davis has the theoretical capacity to play better than Durant ever has.

But I'll leave it to y'all. Will Memphis vs LA end up being the real WCF? Who would you pick over them?
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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#2 » by MyUniBroDavis » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:50 am

OhayoKD wrote:Wanna see how this hot-take is received. Honestly had Memphis as the outright favorites before their big-rotation got injured, but without collins and adams I think the Lakers have a shot.

I think the biggest factor is going to be whether or not JJJ can stay on the court. The Grizzlies are 50ish wins without Ja. They're .500 without Jackson Jr. I think JJJ is probably their most valuable player per possession. With adams and collins, I think Grizzlies could survive playing AD without Jackson. Without, JJJ really can't afford to be playing 30 minutes a game.

If Memphis survive I don't think any of the other Western teams have the personell to punish Memphis that well.

If the Lakers survive, Lebron and Davis are a clear step up from the top-end of significantly shallower opponents. The Suns are considered the favorites, but they're in a similar place in terms of depth as the Lakers and Lebron is better than Durant to me and Davis has the theoretical capacity to play better than Durant ever has.

But I'll leave it to y'all. Will Memphis vs LA end up being the real WCF? Who would you pick over them?


The entire top 7 is a tossup to me tbh, sac seen like the odd ones out but I wouldn’t be suprised if they beat golden state as well
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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#3 » by Dutchball97 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:52 am

Goes to show how open the west is this year as I'm a pretty firm believer that whoever wins the Grizzlies/Lakers match up will be bounced in the second round.
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Post#4 » by SpreeS » Fri Apr 14, 2023 7:30 am

I can't believe it, but the Warriors have only themselves to blame if they don't play in WCF.
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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#5 » by OhayoKD » Fri Apr 14, 2023 11:27 am

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OhayoKD wrote:Wanna see how this hot-take is received. Honestly had Memphis as the outright favorites before their big-rotation got injured, but without collins and adams I think the Lakers have a shot.

I think the biggest factor is going to be whether or not JJJ can stay on the court. The Grizzlies are 50ish wins without Ja. They're .500 without Jackson Jr. I think JJJ is probably their most valuable player per possession. With adams and collins, I think Grizzlies could survive playing AD without Jackson. Without, JJJ really can't afford to be playing 30 minutes a game.

If Memphis survive I don't think any of the other Western teams have the personell to punish Memphis that well.

If the Lakers survive, Lebron and Davis are a clear step up from the top-end of significantly shallower opponents. The Suns are considered the favorites, but they're in a similar place in terms of depth as the Lakers and Lebron is better than Durant to me and Davis has the theoretical capacity to play better than Durant ever has.

But I'll leave it to y'all. Will Memphis vs LA end up being the real WCF? Who would you pick over them?


The entire top 7 is a tossup to me tbh, sac seen like the odd ones out but I wouldn’t be suprised if they beat golden state as well

Sac doesn't seem like a 2015 hawks situation to you?
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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#6 » by kendogg » Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:05 pm

lol the west is not open the only contenders from the west are the suns and the warriors, but it is doubtful either team will win the finals. the bucks, celtics, and maybe sixers are all favored in a finals series. the rest of the west teams are too flawed in some major way. suns and warriors are flawed too but they just got back durant and wiggins respectively which might give them a chance.
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Post#7 » by Narigo » Fri Apr 14, 2023 2:59 pm

No, I think the suns are coming out the west thisyear
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Post#8 » by Colbinii » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:11 pm

No.

My current numbers for coming out of the West would look something like this:

GSW: 30%
PHX: 20%
DEN: 20%
LAL: 15%
SAC: 10%
MEM+MIN+LAC: <5%
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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#9 » by Colbinii » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:12 pm

OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:Wanna see how this hot-take is received. Honestly had Memphis as the outright favorites before their big-rotation got injured, but without collins and adams I think the Lakers have a shot.

I think the biggest factor is going to be whether or not JJJ can stay on the court. The Grizzlies are 50ish wins without Ja. They're .500 without Jackson Jr. I think JJJ is probably their most valuable player per possession. With adams and collins, I think Grizzlies could survive playing AD without Jackson. Without, JJJ really can't afford to be playing 30 minutes a game.

If Memphis survive I don't think any of the other Western teams have the personell to punish Memphis that well.

If the Lakers survive, Lebron and Davis are a clear step up from the top-end of significantly shallower opponents. The Suns are considered the favorites, but they're in a similar place in terms of depth as the Lakers and Lebron is better than Durant to me and Davis has the theoretical capacity to play better than Durant ever has.

But I'll leave it to y'all. Will Memphis vs LA end up being the real WCF? Who would you pick over them?


The entire top 7 is a tossup to me tbh, sac seen like the odd ones out but I wouldn’t be suprised if they beat golden state as well

Sac doesn't seem like a 2015 hawks situation to you?


It's worse--Hawks were a legitimate Top 6 defense and Top 6 Offense. Sacramento is a Bottom 6 Defense.
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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#10 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Apr 14, 2023 3:46 pm

I'd comfortably take the field.
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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#11 » by OhayoKD » Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:37 pm

Colbinii wrote:No.

My current numbers for coming out of the West would look something like this:

GSW: 30%
PHX: 20%
DEN: 20%
LAL: 15%
SAC: 10%
MEM+MIN+LAC: <5%

sac over mem is spicy
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Post#12 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:54 pm

No way, I have Phx as the favorite.
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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#13 » by MyUniBroDavis » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:00 pm

OhayoKD wrote:
MyUniBroDavis wrote:
OhayoKD wrote:Wanna see how this hot-take is received. Honestly had Memphis as the outright favorites before their big-rotation got injured, but without collins and adams I think the Lakers have a shot.

I think the biggest factor is going to be whether or not JJJ can stay on the court. The Grizzlies are 50ish wins without Ja. They're .500 without Jackson Jr. I think JJJ is probably their most valuable player per possession. With adams and collins, I think Grizzlies could survive playing AD without Jackson. Without, JJJ really can't afford to be playing 30 minutes a game.

If Memphis survive I don't think any of the other Western teams have the personell to punish Memphis that well.

If the Lakers survive, Lebron and Davis are a clear step up from the top-end of significantly shallower opponents. The Suns are considered the favorites, but they're in a similar place in terms of depth as the Lakers and Lebron is better than Durant to me and Davis has the theoretical capacity to play better than Durant ever has.

But I'll leave it to y'all. Will Memphis vs LA end up being the real WCF? Who would you pick over them?


The entire top 7 is a tossup to me tbh, sac seen like the odd ones out but I wouldn’t be suprised if they beat golden state as well

Sac doesn't seem like a 2015 hawks situation to you?


By odd ones out I mean the ones I think are the worst in that group
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Post#14 » by parsnips33 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:03 pm

I will never not be scared of Lebron and AD on the same team. To think Minny was so close to sending them to the other side of the bracket :noway:

With that being said, I'd probably take the field
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Post#15 » by Colbinii » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:23 pm

OhayoKD wrote:
Colbinii wrote:No.

My current numbers for coming out of the West would look something like this:

GSW: 30%
PHX: 20%
DEN: 20%
LAL: 15%
SAC: 10%
MEM+MIN+LAC: <5%

sac over mem is spicy


Thats wrong. SAC should be in the <5% and PHX should be 25%.
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Post#16 » by ShaqAttac » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:26 pm

ppl really pickin pho huh. guess y'all forgot wut happened to durcants last superteam
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Post#17 » by Colbinii » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:29 pm

ShaqAttac wrote:ppl really pickin pho huh. guess y'all forgot wut happened to durcants last superteam


Injuries in 2021 or an easy title.
Injuries in 2022.

Yeah, people are assuming no injuries.
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Post#18 » by rk2023 » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:32 pm

Indicators are there for Phoenix, but the jury (myself) is still out. I assume they beat the Clippers. This would have them playing Denver in all likelihood essentially. How do you think they steal games in the hardest arena to play in with the altitude being a factor too? I see that wearing and throttling down someone like Chris Paul (maybe even KD) over the course of a series. I think both teams offenses will be potent, but could any of you see that as a factor?

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Post#19 » by ShaqAttac » Fri Apr 14, 2023 5:34 pm

Colbinii wrote:
ShaqAttac wrote:ppl really pickin pho huh. guess y'all forgot wut happened to durcants last superteam


Injuries in 2021 or an easy title.
Injuries in 2022.

Yeah, people are assuming no injuries.

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Re: Yes or No: Winner of Memphis/Lakers wins the West 

Post#20 » by RCM88x » Fri Apr 14, 2023 6:09 pm

Easy answer is no. Even if LA looks good against Memphis I just think they'll run out of gas well before the Finals. Plus I think GS and SAC both match up really well against them. Now if Memphis really looks strong in this series I could really see them giving GS a good fight, but still probably not enough for me to favor them.

Phx vs. Denver is interesting because I really don't think Phx has what it takes to exploit Denver's defensive issues, and I also question their ability to guard Denver on the other end. Overall I don't really trust the Denver supporting cast that much (not that Phx instills great confidence either) so I won't really feel great about picking them to win multiple series against anyone.
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